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Would this season have gone differently?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TuRnDoWnForWaTT, Dec 14, 2022.

  1. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Tuitt showed flashes of dominance but was often hurt and was short lived. I think many are making him out to be more than he was as is the norm. I’m not disputing that losing him hurt us however but still it’s not like we suddenly lost AD or something. We shouldn’t be this bad on run D.
     
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  2. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    As poor as our O line was especially at the beginning of the season, Rudolph would have only lasted a game or two before getting injured. He doesn't have the escapability that Kenny or Trubisky has.
     
  3. Karl

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    Finding Linebackers in the mold of/living up to linebackers like Greg 'Avoid' Llyod, James Harrison (always mad), Levon'275lbs' Kirkland, Joey Porter, James Farrior etc
    Would be nice.

    I always thought the Defense took on the personality of those guys.
    RB's hated breaking through the line because it just hurts when a speedy 275lb LB meets you head on.
    Harrison just flat out hated the offense. I think it just made him angrier if he had to chase some puny little RB.
    And they all let guys know in the huddle if they were messing up.

    So I am in favor of drafting some angry young LB, chain him up to the shed out back when he's not practicing, throw rocks at him the other times and then put him in the game.
    I haven't figured out the penalty parts yet.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Did You actually think these answers would be any different. LoL.
    These people hated Mason in less games then Pickett has played....and magically thought Trubisky was better ,and He's played over 60 games. LoL. It's just the same foolishness as people who already think they know how bad, or how good Pickett is, or will Be. It's laughable. Neither Mason , or Pickett has played enough games to know exactly who they are.
    You know who has played enough though. Mitch Trubisky. 63 games, and the same problems. Terrible deep ball....can't read a field, and doesn't see Defenders.
     
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  5. steelcityfanatic

    steelcityfanatic Active Member

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    100 percent chance we would at least be in the playoff hunt right now if Mason had been starting all season
     
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  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I forgot none of that. It wasn't the topic. The question was how things could have gone differently. The losses of Watt and Tuitt were devastating. That is inarguable among the sane.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    And yet you prejudge players in the draft and declare they are no good without them ever playing a snap. Hmmmm :hmm:

    Sorry, I had to :lolol:
     
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  8. Formerscribe

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    It wasn't just the run defense, though he was a big loss there. Losing him as a pass rusher also hurt. I think some of the focus on coverage to account for the lack of pass rush has hurt them against the run, too.
     
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  9. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Mason had his opportunity and did nothing to significantly differentiate himself from either Mitch or Kenny. And they were more mobile which is a prerequisite for Canada’s offense.
     
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  10. steelcityfanatic

    steelcityfanatic Active Member

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    Canada should of fit his offense around his players. That is what smart coaches do. And Mason is the best QB on the roster
     
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  11. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I wish Mason well on his next team, he seems like a nice guy. But in no world is he the best quarterback on the roster. Kenny Pickett is already better than both Mason and Mitch. The fact is Mason has had his opportunities and has failed to deliver.
     
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  12. burghfan58

    burghfan58 Well-Known Member

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    I do think Mason would have done better than Trubisky once the OLine was playing better together. Mason outplayed Mitch during camp and in the preseason. However, for Mason's mental confidence the best thing was for Mitch to be named the starter. I've said before the first starting QB following Ben was going to be judged harshly. Mason came into camp and competed for the job, but someone forgot to tell Mitch he needed to compete too and was just given the job. Many acted like the Steelers won the FA lottery with Mitch. I would rather keep Mason than Mitch as the backup next year, but I doubt Mason will stick around. I hope Mason goes somewhere and is given a fair shot. With a rich QB draft next year he may only be someone else's stop gap at 28. If he goes somewhere and becomes the starter for the next 6-7 years, the Steelers are going to look pretty foolish. Even more so if Pickett doesn't last.
     
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  13. THREE RIVER SHIVER

    THREE RIVER SHIVER Well-Known Member

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    Tuitt should have maned up and let the front office know something early in the off-season...They paid him last season then he stuck it up their azz.....jmo
     
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  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    Hi Mason
     
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  15. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    No....
    I don't think they will be good. Not ....they are not good.
    Example: J. Allen. I didn't think He'd be good....yes talented, but I didn't think He'd pan out. I was wrong.
    Although I'm not wrong about they won't have Him much longer if they don't quit designing runs for Him.
    I have no trouble admitting I was wrong.
     
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  16. S.T.D

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    Yet the least mobile Ben still threw more Tds, and less int, and so far had more Wins than any of the mix.
     
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  17. S.T.D

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    I give a Winner for the 1st part. Canada should fit His offense for the players.
    Now the Mason is the best Qb on the roster part ....I personally don't know. I know Trubisky isn't, but Mason, and Pickett haven't played in the NFL long enough for Me to say either way.
     
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  18. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Mason has started 10 whole games with 16tds , and 11 ints. Kenny Pickett 9 games started..7tds , 8 ints.
    .Not You...Not Me, and not anyone knows how good, or bad either actually is.
    That would be like someone saying Pickett sucks. It's foolish.
    Only one Qb on this team You, and anyone should have seen enough of....63 games in the NFL Mitch Trubisky.
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    People need to stop with this false narrative that Rudolph was better than anybody in preseason. He started faster, which makes sense since he was the one who had been with the team for years. He wasn't better in the preseason games, especially when you take into account that he was playing against rookies and scrubs while Trubisky was facing starters.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Najee wasn't 250lbs, he said he was 240lbs I believe, I'm not sure how his weight would cause him to have a Lisfranc injury.
     
  21. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it would have made that much of a difference with Mason starting.
     
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  22. KMM

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    LOL.

    The staff and FO have had four years of seeing Rudolph taking thousands of snaps including with the 1's every Wednesday and dozens of games and when Ben retired they promptly signed Trubisky and drafted, not one, but two QBs. Yet somehow people think that Mason may have done better? The Steelers knew what they have in Mason and they found it wanting.
     
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  23. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Agree that I’ve seen all I need to see of Mitch and he is what he is…an average backup. I also somewhat agree that Mason’s sample size is somewhat limited and he still has a shot if he gets a fresh start elsewhere. But based on what I’ve seen thus far, he’s not starter material, but he can be a high quality backup. There’s no disgrace in that and he can make a decent living for a long time being a quality backup like Charlie Batch, Colt McCoy and others. And even though Kenny has struggled at times I’ve seen him do a few things that neither Mitch nor Mason are capable of doing. He’s shown flashes that I haven’t seen from the other two.
     
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  24. OB1

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    The sad part is that they replaced Mason with someone who's worst than Mason. So they achieved nothing.
     
  25. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    As bad as Trubisky looked last week, I would still start him over Rudolph this week.

    I hope Tomlin doesn’t panic with this decision.
     
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