Woodley, Harrison, and Polamalu

I came across this fact these 3 guys have played together once in the last 15 games, part of the reason the defense has struggled.

 

and still dont have theirs replacements on the roster

 

I was actually trying the other day to think of the last time the WHOLE D was on the field and I couldn't think of the game. The place I always go back to when I think of where we started to go downhill is the Pats game when Woodley got hurt. We dominated that game and then Woodley went down and it seemed the Pats got back some of their edge. The fact is pretty clear that we need ALL 3 of them to do anything significant.

 

Oh my!!

:-D

 

cheers TE

 

this disturbs me though. knowing we can beat them on papaer if everyone is healthy is not a winning mindset, because as you say , it's been 15 games. these guys are not going to all of a sudden revert back to how they played in their prime, but yet we have not adjusted for life without them. just hoping they can stay healthy is a disappointing scheme to keep running for 15 games waiting for them to play together.

 

They won 12 games last year so I wouldn't say they haven't adjusted without them. Just having them on the field at the same time helps because the opposition has more play makers they have to account for.[/quote:2jytiifh]

that was last year. we have also dropped 3 of our last 4.

 

They won 12 games last year so I wouldn't say they haven't adjusted without them. Just having them on the field at the same time helps because the opposition has more play makers they have to account for.[/quote:2up1sjzw]

that was last year. we have also dropped 3 of our last 4. [/quote:2up1sjzw]

Well, 15 games would have to encompass some of last year no? We need to tighten it up in the 4th qtr, in our 2 losses we have been outscored 30 - 6.[/quote:2up1sjzw]

true but what i meant by that is we had what we had last year as far as players. this year we added players but we don't use them. why would we pound casey 40 plays a game and mclendon 5? why would we keep playing ziggy with him and cam 5? we can't stay with status quo and expect different results. just because these guys will play this game doesn't mean we should just keep the rest on the bench all game. this would be the time to incorperate some speed while they are back. our older players need to be kept fresh for that 4th qtr. i don't think they are ever going to be a force for 4 qtrs. again. we wear them out. tired players get injured. i put alot of this on the coaching staff. i agree we will be better with these guys, but really how healthy are they? we have a long stretch to go now that our bye is over. we need more impact from the young guys while these top vets are in there. they have to see the field though. i don't want to see us waste a season while these guys get another year older and we don't help them out with our young talent.

 

I also misread it

That stat is really surprising .....hopefully the second time will be this Sunday!

 

The last time they all were together was the very first game of the year last year...a drubbing at the hands of the Ravens. Throw in the GB Super Bowl destruction and the D just hasn't looked the same since. In fact, I blame the SB loss on our current struggles. The D has tried to adjust to not get thrown on so much any more. The problem is we now get run on all the time. We need to get back to what really works....eliminate the run from the other team and MAKE them pass the ball. Then rush them like crazy into making mistakes.

 

We need better corners to be able to pick the ball off and not get beat like a drum all over the field in order for this to happen. If Troy and Ryan hold down the middle that'll be great but if Ike and Lewis give up the deep threat we are no better off. I would kill for a great and dominant cornerback.

 

How many teams have replacements for their top 3 defensive players on the roster already. Fact is you just can't replace great players with ease. It take time to find these types, and it is even harder to always get them, especially when we always draft later in each round.

 

some has something better , especially when you think about troy and clark that are not spring cicken and what you have behind ? mundy and will allen

 

While everything said so far has been true...
Why have I not heard Lawrence Timmon`s name?
He is part of the team, right? and getting paid fairly well???
Even in the article that quoted Keisel... I didn`t notice Timmon`s name, in his very astute assesment of the overall perfomance of the "D"...
I watched some of what I could see of the game against the Faiders, just before I got here..
Couldn`t see any of the 1st qtr...
After that, he didnt seem to do too bad, but he did stuff, that wouldn`t necessarily show up on the highlight reel...
He got penetration, he didn`t really cover as much as I expected...
Does he get a pass, because Troy and James were`nt there, or should he do better even without them?
I think he should...
To me, without them, he needs to step up... I know it ain`t easy... but you shouldn`t get paid big money, if you need help to do your job.
Right, or Wrong?

 

I agree with you but this is kind of a sensitive issue on here. I personally don't think Timmons is all that and I think he is overpaid. Some people really like him but I'm just "meh" concerning him. Honestly I think of him as a role player and not a "star" I guess. He's solid but I don't think he is spectacular.

 

Good choice of words and I agree. He is like a supporting actor.. Stand in. The way he is used is improper if you ask me. He would be better suited with a different scheme..

Bman