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Why can't we get top WR's like this?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Robert, May 12, 2025 at 7:24 PM.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Because context matter

    I can't count Batch,Leftwich,Dixon,etc since in the case of Dixon,Dixon had only 2 starts with us(one for AB) and I don't think AB had played on offense(in special team yes,since he had a kickoff for a TD vs titans in 2010)...He had never played a game with Byron...Byron had only 1 start and it was in 2012 and AB was out for that game....AB had played only 2 games with Batch(1 in 2011 and 1 in 2012) and it was before his peak
     
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  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    See more feelings over facts. LoL. So He played with all I mentioned, except Byron, but He played with others I didn't mention.
    Answer one thing. Was what I wrote a lie??? Did AB, who had played with multiple Qbs in Pittsburgh ever catch a TD with anyone besides Ben???
     
  3. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Yes since it lack of context way too much....None of those QB beside Ben was a top 60 QB in this league in those years...Me and you would been better that the version of Michael Vick in 2015,this is how bad VIck was...Landry Jones was like Terry Bradshaw in comparaison to Vick.This is how bad Vick was with us
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. So the real answer, without all the feelings, and by just using facts is, no STD ....without Ben, and even though He played with multiple Qbs in Pittsburgh, AB never caught a TD without Ben throwing him the Ball.
    This is not as hard as You are making it. LoL
     
  5. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Who was the best QB the steelers had after Ben when AB was with us?
     
  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Shouldn't matter right, is that what some of You have been telling me , that the Qbs don't make the wrs???
     
  7. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    It matters, but it's also true for all positions.

    Even Mahomes and Brady had some struggles when their receivers were poor.
     
  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    There will always be outliers.....Like Mike Evans, Dhop in the day, Moss, but most Qb make the wrs.....it's that way all the way down to Jr high.
     
  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Still a huge gap between a Ryan Fitzpatrick type QB vs a complete washed Michael Vick

    The receivers with Winston(QB with Evans for like 5 years)never struggle to produce.Even Jeudy in Cleveland had big games with him in 2024,but the problem with Winston are of course the turnovers who are all-time bad
     
  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Thats not all the Qbs Evans has played with, Hes played with 7 different Qbs and has had a good year every year...of course this will come to a end , just like it did with DHop, and Moss, because as they get old they can't do the same anymore.
     
  11. Tiggs99

    Tiggs99 Well-Known Member

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    True. However, I think it was Ben that turned him into a top receiver in the league. A good qb helps a wr and vice versa, but I think a qb helps a receiver more. Jerry Rice would have been good receiver anywhere, but he wouldn’t be considered GOAT (arguably) , if it weren’t for Montana or Steve Young.
     

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