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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Oct 31, 2021.

  1. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Or if not under Canada, maybe playing IN Canada.
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’ll take that bet ;)
     
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  3. Maddog78

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    Not true. Mattison gets carries in Minn, Pollard gets them in Dallas, Barber and Drake get plenty of touches in Vegas, Mack and Hines get carries in Indy.

    We don't have an option like that. Going into today, Snell was tied with Ben for 2nd in carries with 8.

    Maybe Harris is as durable as Henry. We'd better hope he is.
     
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  4. RichD

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    Harris will be sucking wind by week 17. Someone needs to take 10-12 carries off his back . Snell and Ballage are slow and McFarland sucks.
     
  5. SGSteeler

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    You're 2/4. Look at the usage and not just the stats. Mattison only has carries in games that Cook has been hurt. When Cook is healthy the most carries Mattison has gotten in those games is 3. If Cook is healthy, their game looks the same as today's for the Steelers where Ballage gets a carry and McFarland gets 2. Barber has exactly 1 carry in games that Jacobs is healthy. Drake has gotten some touches, but again due to injury. In the 6 games before last weeks' Eagles game he averaged less than 5 carries a game (including the games where Jacobs was injured). I can concede in Dallas' case, but its to protect an aging Elliot that is coming off an injury season (who may not be a feature back for much longer) and can concede in Indy's case as well, but as Taylor begins to show he is a real #1 runner I would expect the other two guys to get way less carries.

    I'm not arguing to ignore the back up RB role all together, but when you have a top end feature back the norm league wide is to give those guys the rock in volumes. You don't RBBC the big time guys. There's probably only 7-8 feature backs in the league IMO (Henry, McCaffrey, Cook, Kamara, Chubb, Jones, Harris, Mixon maybe) Only one of those guys has a committee style approach and its because Kareem Hunt is probably good enough to be a top 10 back if he was starting for another team.

    We will get another back up RB. Its not worth the pick at this point this year. Maybe next year we can find someone to sign or draft one in the mid rounds.
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    None of those are committees, thats the bell cow getting some breathers.

    Steelers had 6 other carries not by Harris today. In contrast, Cleveland had 7 carries other than Chubbs.
     
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  7. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    Two more bell cow backs - Robinson in Jax, Henry in Tenn - hurt yesterday. Henry may be gone for the year.

    Oops.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    The Packers use multiple backs. Jones is the primary, but Dillon gets plenty of work.

    The Steelers do need another back to pair with Harris. Snell is a nice option as a third-string guy, but nothing more. Ballage sucks. I haven't seen any reason to believe in McFarland.
     
  9. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    The kid gets stronger and stronger each and every game. He is a DIFFERANCE MAKER on this Offense. That leap was awesome in that TD drive!

    They do spell him. Ballage I like. Benny Snell Football is deflated. McFarland is not the same type running back.

    If any bell cow running back goes down a team would be in trouble. The clowns are the exception who picked up Hunt on the cheap due to his legal troubles and who is now injured.

    And low and behold the Offensive Line is showing improvement. Amazing isn't it :hehehe:
     
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  10. Formerscribe

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    I guess you forgot that the Jaguars spent a No. 1 pick on Etienne to share the rushing load in Jacksonville, but he was also injured. Even the teams that use committees can be hit with injuries. Baltimore is a great example of that, losing their top three backs.
     
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  11. Maddog78

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    Barely. RB touches:

    Harris: 165
    Snell: 9
    Ballage: 7
    Mac: 1

    RB snaps:

    Harris: 405
    Snell: 30
    Ballage: 29
    Mac: 7
     
  12. SGSteeler

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    Looks pretty good to me :)
     
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  13. AskQuestionsLater

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    Teven Jenkins!!!!!

    Samuel Cosmi!!!!
     
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  14. AskQuestionsLater

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    Do not knock Desmond Ridder either!!! Dude can play for sure. That said, I agree.


    Of the two, if Malik is available... give me him. I could not care if Malik came from "Daddy Daycare Academy". If he can play, he can play. Malik can do just that.
     
  15. Maddog78

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    All that offensive firepower, 19 PPG, 26th in the league.

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  16. AskQuestionsLater

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    Regarding Najee, as I have stated and, as the Steelers have proven time after time since Mean Joe in 1969, Pittsburgh does not simply draft players based on the present but also the future. It is also worth nothing that the Steelers also do not draft based on position but on need. When Art Rooney II stated the running game needs to get better, I think that should have been a very clear indicative of what the team was attempting to go for. Yes, Offensive Lineman definitely help but merely drafting a Lineman which does not fit into the scheme is counter productive. For that matter, the only lineman I am certain the Steelers would have ended up drafting in this draft were Darrisaw or Slater.... assuming both had been available. However, there is a second component of the success of the rushing attack; a rock solid Running Back. Najee Harris was the best Running Back in the class; not even close for me. He is essentially SaQuon Barkley minus that transcendent speed and explosive ability Barkley possess. Take those two aspects away and both Najee and SaQuon are literally a carbon copy of one another.



    This leads me to the highlight of my statement; Najee was not just the correct pick for 2021 but beyond. Yes, yes, the shelf life of a running back is not very good; doubly so the amount of carries he receives. Those proverbial tires can wear out even faster should said running backs primary game be all about power. Thankfully, Najee's is not. Yes, he can use power moves but is a thinking mans back by nature. As opposed to seek out contact, Najee instinctively calculates the best methods for more yardage, which in turn, creates a better opportunity for the Offense to set itself up in winnable situations. Najee can get physical but only when he has to and not when he wants to.



    Overall though, I believe Najee Harris is just the beginning of a very good rebuild for the Steelers Offense. Granted, getting a QB ASAP is also critical but that will be handled at a later date and time. As for the rest of the class, outside of Buddy Johnson, all other Rookies who are still on the team in this class have produced in a meaningful way. Should they continue to progress in the right direction for the rest of the season, Pittsburgh's chances of winning more games increases as a result. Whether this team can get into the playoffs though is yet another question that will have to be answered at a later date and time.
     
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  17. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Now you jinxed it.
     
  18. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Lets see, we are starting a rookie rb, center, TE, Left offensive tackle second year guard 3rd or 4th year right tackle
    not too shabby , young guys getting experience and playing competitive football not embarrassing themselves.
    If we get a qb look out, we will be competing again for championships.
     
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  19. Blast Furnace

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    You think thats because of Harris and Muth or Ben?

    I think you know the answer but too stubborn to admit those were good draft picks.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    News flash genius: if they drafted OL in the first two rounds the offense wouldn't be any better, they would've ended up with lesser talent at RB, TE.
     
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  21. jeh1856

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    And you keep holding to your premises that reaching for a lower OL player would have just bolstered the offense immediately.

    Do you even follow football?
     
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  22. Maddog78

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    They're good players who are playing well, but with limited impact to the bottom line. That's exactly the point. It's all about positional value.

    I'd trade them both in a heartbeat for a better QB and the offense would improve as a result. Throw in a stud #1 WR and you're top 5-8.
     
  23. Maddog78

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    I never said OL was the only other position to take, <mod edit>.
     
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  24. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    You did say that earlier, then you tried to change your stance because no OL was worth taking at #24, then you tried to come up with this crap about they should drafted Newsome at CB :facepalm:. Harris adds more value to the team than a player like Newsome would.
     
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  25. steel machine

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    I was pretty sure Ben would be gone by week 7 as others thought on here. (injury)
     

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