Trade for Wallace

How to the Rams for Baby Animal and a 3rd.....or to the Raiders for Janikowski, Lechler and since they most likely cut him anyway...Ill take McClain and see if a solid foundation in Pitt can turn him around.....To Seattle for Earl Thomas......

Honestly I would want picks...and either a young talented ILB or FS

 

Not a chance in hell!

 

What is Mike Wallace's trade value?

I think Mike Wallace has played his last game for the Steelers. What do you think another team would be willing to trade for him?

 

Yea, i like the idea of getting picks, but i think we could probably get better value by getting a player. I'd love an ILB, but i don't know who would fit the system that would be tradeable.

I'm curious why you say there is no chance in Hell for that trade? Granted things like this rarely happen in the NFL, but its not like the deal is not a fair deal. RB's with some wear and tear have no value in this league no matter what their name is (plus he is unhappy in Jacksonville) and Wallace is a young good WR that we can't sign. Would probably make sense for both parties.

After the latest report of him turning down 5 years 50 mill, the chances of a trade are looking better and better. Just saw he is looking for 5 years 55 mill. We can't afford that but i'm sure some will pay him it.

 

According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, unsigned restricted free agent Mike Wallace is seeking a contract similar to Vincent Jackson's in Tampa Bay.
The Sacramento Bee reported in March that Wallace was demanding Larry Fitzgerald money. Fitzgerald received $120 million over eight years, good for an annual average of $15 million and the richest contract in league history for a wideout at the time it was signed. Jackson's deal was worth $55.555 million over five years -- an $11.1 annual average and quite a bit more reasonable. A team willing to pony up that kind of dough plus a decent draft pick could probably take Wallace off the Steelers' hands before the season. Jul. 28 - 3:33 pm et

 

Re: What is Mike Wallace's trade value?

donutt and a glass of milk, is wht i would give 4 him

 

Hw can we trade him if won't sign his tender? I say play for 2.7 or sit at home

 

I'm sure if the a trade was an option...Wallace and the new team would work out a deal and then he would sign his tender to officially be under contract to the Steelers then they trade him to the new team. Like a sign and trade in the NBA.

However if the Steelers do trade him...i just hate the possible precedent it sets for players in the future they hey if I hold out and do this and that they might trade me. While it would only be one instance in who knows how many years it would happen...still it could have a small ripple effect when it comes to that kind of stuff. But hey if they do it and get good value in return...then so be it I guess. I always trust in the Steelers front office/etc.

 

Do we not have to give permission to talk to other teams?

 

The Steelers are not going to trade a player that's holding out without a contract for a player that's holding out with two years remaining on a contract. It makes absolutely no sense for the Steelers.

 

MJD's has 2 years 9 mill left on his deal. They could give him 3 years 15-18 mill or 4 years 20024 mill and i'm sure he would do it, especially playing on a team that could make the super bowl. That deal is much less than 5 years 50 mill that Wallace turned down. MJD has had the most touches by any player over the past 3 years, do you blame him for wanting more money? Its not like RB's have super long careers.

 

The way i see it is, who cares if they set that precedent. If a player doesn't want to play here then screw them we don't need them and they aren''t the type of player that the Steelers organization is famous for having.

 

Wallace is not getting traded. He will be at camp Monday is my guess.

 

He cannot be traded at this point in the game so no use even going there right now.

The Steelers are just getting things done, as they're known to do, and using their heads as usual. Priority was Wallace until he failed to show. They now have a team in place ready for the season as well as new blood all signed long term. They just recently wrapped up for the next half decade: Our #1 Pick, Our Coach & a Young WR to boot. This is going to save them millions for years to come. Smart move.

Wallace, is of course still in the mix but they have options to deal with him, hard ball style, since he chose to go that direction with management. The Steelers have definitely sent a message to prospective negotiations in the future. This is the best of a bad situation that they could have done. Again, smart move.

I have to admit, I like this Rooney and the way he handles things and money. He has shown that he is willing to open up the vault but you have to be willing to give a little too. Wallace can still be a Steeler but it's a different game now, yet it can still happen. I think they may get a deal done yet.

 

Obviously.

 

Just because Colbert said Mike is not available for trade right now i'm not going to stop this discussion, because i still believe the trade will happen at some point. Its pretty much the only option left.
Colbert is just being poitically correct right now because Mike is not under contract. If they have a trade worked out Mike would sign the tender.

What teams do you like as partners at the moment?

I like...

-St. Louis and Indy if it involves picks
-I still like the trade for MJD but i believe things would have to get worse on Jacksonvilles side before they decide they want to trade him.
-I saw Dallas mentioned in another thread but i'm not sure they the Cap space to make a deal happen. Denver would be another team i could see the trade benefiting a lot but i think they have the same problem as Dallas, not enough cap space.

Anyone see any ILB's that we ay be able to move him for?

 

Add the Dolphins to the list.

The Miami Herald expects the Dolphins to "at least make a call" to the Steelers about the availability of unsigned restricted free agent Mike Wallace.Columnist/reporter Armando Salguero is aware of Steelers GM Kevin Colbert's stance that Wallace is unavailable, but says "I've covered this league too long to know that often a 'no' means 'not now' and sometimes it transitions to 'yes, absolutely.'" The Dolphins are clearly in the market for a wide receiver; they were willing to use a high supplemental pick on Josh Gordon and recently tried out free agent Braylon Edwards. This union would make an awful lot of sense. Jul 29 - 10:38 AMSource: Miami Herald

It's obvious he will be traded at some point, i just hope they can get decent compensation.

 

How do you figure it's obvious? Wallace's best two options are to sign the tender, bust his ass this year and test the free agent market or sign the tender and negotiate a long term deal with the steelers. Everything else is bs. No one gave a up a 1st for him in the off season they aren't going to do it now. The Steelers can use his services this year and still get a compensatory pick for him next if he leaves via free agency.

 

Strummerfan-Have you been paying attention to whats going on? What makes you think Wallace will sign the tender and play his ass off this year?

-He said he would not be in camp until he had a long term deal or he had to be there. He still hasn't shown up.
-He turned down 5 years 50 mill against the wishes of his agent and wants 5 years- 55 to 60 mill, which we can't afford
-Brown got a long term deal, which now means we definately can't afford Wallace
-We are the Steelers, the best organization in football when it comes to dealing with these things. We will not let this guy and his holdout become a distraction.

My biggest concern is that they will dump him quick and not negotiate to get a good deal because they are sick of his crap (like Santonio) or they will just cut him. They probably would have gotten a better pick had they had Santonio play the year out and left in Free Agency.

As for no one giving a 1st rd pick for him in the offseason, that is irrelevant.

-Any team early in the 1st round isn't willing to give up that pick and most of those teams would be the ones that would be most interested in Wallace and have the money to use on him. (Stl, Indy, Miami)
-Picks are valued higher before the draft than they are right now before the season.
-Player can be used now in a trade making there many more options on how a team can get Wallace
-A 2nd from St Louis, Indy, or Miami would probably turn into a decent pick

 

Training camp is all of 4 days old, the sky is not falling. We don't know if he turned down 5years 50 million or not. As it stands it's pure speculation just like the comments about him demanding Fitz money. We most certainly can still afford Wallace, it's all about how they structure the deal. You've got one thing right and that's the Steelers are the best when it comes to these scenarios. They won't let it be a distraction and they'll do that by continuing to move forward. Just like they did by signing Antonio Brown to a long term deal.

The Steelers will continue to do their thing while Wallace sits at home collecting ZERO dollars and people on internet message boards will make up mythical scenarios where Colbert gets fleeced in a trade.

 

No the sky is not falling. I'm actually happy that Wallace will probably be gone. I don't feel like he is a Steeler type player. As for the speculation of Wallace turning down 5 years 50 million, usually when there is smoke there is fire especially when coming from people close to the organization.

There is no way they will get a long term deal with Wallace at this point. Sure could they find a way to do it, yes, but it would put us in a financial bind in the years to come. Someone put a deal out there that you think wallace would accept and wouldn't put us in a financial bind? We don't over pay for anyone so why would we do it for Wallace, especially after the way he has been acting. His career in Pitt is over. I think this is hard for some fans to grasp, but this is the way we do business and it seems to always work out.

This thread is meant to speculate who could be a trade partner and what possible trades can be made. By no means was i ever saying Colbert will get fleeced in a trade. My only concern is they will give him away because they are sick of his crap and to be honest if they did that i wouldn't blame them. Although i think this will play out for awhile and i think they will have a lot of interest from other teams. I'm sure teams are already calling on him.

 

I don't think Wallace will be gone.
He'll sign to get paid and it allows him to make his move, whatever that entails. SO, SIGN HE WILL. Now, the question that remains is after that fact. Can they get something done long term to keep him in the right colors? As of right now the real issue might be is Rooney willing to work with this man or has Wallace burned that bridge? These negotiations, the mega millions not withstanding, still come down to acting with integrity and good faith. The "rumors" circulating online is that Wallace has not done so but who really knows? Sometimes, it's something as simple as a phone call to Mr Rooney w/o the agent involved just to break the ice and get things rolling again. That's why showing up for work (camp) was so important even if you have not reached an agreement. Particularly if the rumors are right and your only a few million apart_that's doable in today's world.
If memory serves me, Ward in his hold out did just that, when talks broke down and both sides were at an impasse he made sure they knew that he wanted to be a Steeler. He also showed up and was on the sideline during a game publicly letting everyone know his desire to remain in Black and Gold. So, there is still time for Wallace to do the same.

My guess? If Wallace hasn't totally pissed off Art and sends the right feelers out they'll eventually get a deal done and Wallace remains a Steeler. The sky will part, the sun will shine and this whole mess will be behind them/us. Someone has to give a little, so we'll see...

 

What doesn't make sense to me is that Steelers teammates are saying that Wallace is doing what is best for him and his family. If you're not collecting a paycheck, you're not doing what is best for your family. Even if he doesn't LIKE $2.7 Million - it's better than $0 Million.

As far as the second highlighted quote - Wallace ain't no Hines Ward. I said this to my son VERY early in the season last year. I said that while I like what Wallace brings to the offense, I really don't think he is a "Steeler" at heart. On the other hand, Antonio Brown bleeds Black and Gold. The Steelers chose the right player to pursue aggressively and sign. If Wallace proves me wrong, I'll be happy about that, but if he doesn't - he can go and NOT win a Super Bowl with another team. Many have done it before him and many will do it after him.