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I'm pretty sure they met with him in some respect, combine or all star game etc. Supposedly he impressed every team he met with in regards to his football IQ and knowledge of the defense.

 

then why not look at the guys we already brought in before wasting a draft pick in a weak class of them?

 

The guys they brought in are probably just camp bodies, Kam Kelly type of safeties.

 

Because they are all SS. There is nothing in their scouting reports that should make anyone feel comfortable about their ability to play FS ,single high. How long were we missing a true FS? Now we are comfortable with 1 when we see how much of a difference a good one makes? We have 5-6 SS on the roster and 1 true FS. The numbers say we need another FS. It’s easy to see.

 

yet kam made the team and played until he got in trouble.

 

Kinnel played single high and over the spot at michigan. Matthews has played both and Dangerfield has played both.

 

There a difference between playing it and being good at it especially at the pro level. I guess you could pick up any CB and say they have played CB before. That doesn’t make them capable at the NFL level,right?

 

so you know a draft pick is capable of that how?

 

Based on their performance at the college level and the scouting report that says they are capable of playing single high at the next level(NFL) You know the ball hawks from the guys who clearly aren’t. No offense but where were you when Mitchell and the failed Davis experiment at FS was unfolding? Did you not see the immediate impact Minkah had on the defense? Having a guy that can actually make plays with the ball in the air transformed our defense. We currently have one of those guys on the roster. Expecting all these camp bodies to be able to play FS at a competent level is going back to the Mitchell and Davis talent pool ....no thanks.

 

You are right and he was our first round pick this year. Now the guy we pick behind the minka pick somewhere in this draft is an automatic minka Fitzpatrick because his scouting report says he is. Well why did we waste the first round pick on minka last year? We should have waited and got a first round pick this year and then somewhere in this draft got our new safety because he was such a sure thing.

now if you feel like digging back since you seem to know I didn't say anything about Mitchell. You need to check again. I fought with guys like you about safety for years. I wanted a safety of two since before Mitchell or Davis landed here.

Now since we need a safety to back up minka, we also need a tj watt, a bud Dupree, a cam heyward, a Joe haden, a Stephen tuitt, a Steve nelson, a Devin bush, a Ben roethlisberger, a Mike hilton, and every other player on the team because these draft picks this year can do what they do better then anyone we already have here. We have to be ready you know when they get hurt this year. Hell, where is your concern about Vince williams? You think he's good enough.

 

Wow mac take a breath man. I have my opinion as well. I don’t even know what you’re rambling on about. It’s a simple equation. We have 1 true FS on the roster and a bunch of wannabe or who you think are true FS. I’m sorry if you don’t notice how much having a real FS has meant to this defense. It’s not just because he’s MF it’s also because he’s a true FS. I’m only saying if we draft a S it should be a FS not another wannabe or a conversion project. That’s all I’m saying. You are going on and on about a CB. Is he the next Haden or even the next Nelson? All I’m saying it’s MY OPINION that we could use another FS and my examples of MM and SD is to show they weren’t true FS and it showed in coverage and getting actual turnovers out of the position. Something MF was able to do day 1. I’m not even insinuating that we can draft the next MF. I’m saying we need true FS depth behind him. That’s all I’m saying I don’t know why you are bugging?
Oh and you didn’t fight with “guys like me” about S because Ives been asking for a true FS for years and years. So you have me confused with someone else....VW........whaaaat?

I also never said anything that you were ok with MM. I said he was a example of what this defense was missing because we didn’t have a FS....

 

you do know Dangerfield was an all - american at free safety in college. Battle also played free safety at LSU. Matthew's has played both at Auburn. Kimmel played in a split zone and as a single high safety and over the slot while garnering most improved defensive player while at michigan. So you seem very wrong about all these strong safety only players.

 

How am I wrong? Based on what they did in college? How come after 6 years JD can’t even crack the starting lineup and all these other guys aren’t already playing in the league. We were terrible at FS how come Dangerfield never got a chance to show his All American prowess? You make it sound so easy? Then why did it make such a difference when we actually got one? For years and years they tried selling us on the notion that our Safeties are interchangeable? I’m guessing you bought in to that? MF blew that idea out of the water and just showed and proved what we were missing for years. I’m not the only one around here who feels we could use another FS. I visit a couple other sites that many also agree with it. I don’t know why you are arguing so strongly against me? The fact of the matter is we have a total of 1 FS on the roster and a bunch of what if’s and wannabes like Kam Kelly last year....trash.

Again my point is IF we draft a S we need a FS.

 

We are talking about a backup. We have a starting fs. We have BACKUP free safeties. Nobody we have or draft in this draft will be as good. We could say the same about the guy you want to draft. Why is he a backup?

 

Why was Kam Kelly brought in last year and got playing time over Dangerfield? Shouldn’t a All American in college who has been here 6 years get a shot at FS over Kelly? Aren’t you talking about a back up CB? We have back up CBs. Someone like Winfield JR is a very good FS but is also slot capable and can play some down in the box. So he’s not just a back up FS he is a possible Hilton replacement as well next year. He also gives you the versatility that would allow MF to be used as a chess piece as well. Something they are already talking about.

 

We don't have a draft pick high enough for the one year wonder. Big time drop off after that. When do you ever remember the steelers drafting the same position one two. That's exactly what that would be. One for a starter and one for his backup.

 

So he’s a 1 year wonder but at the same time some team is going to take him before 49? So that means they are all wrong about him and you are right? Ok Devin Bush says hello....i respect your draft knowledge and opinions but you are just as wrong as many times as everyone else.

 

Kam sucked too, he would've got benched even if he didn't get into trouble.

 

This guy could be Minkah's backup

 

You’re right he sucked and would of ended up on the bench anyway. Yet he played over all the supposed depth we have that can play FS. Something isn’t adding up....we have back ups at every position and we finally see what a true FS,a single high capable safety means to this defense and we don’t need a back up there? Mitchell = fail.....Davis= fail. Minkah= pass(flying colors) another single high capable S gives us the ability of using Minkah as a athlete, a chess piece, instead of pigeonholing him at FS because no one else can play it. When Minkah first got here he immediately helped cause some TOs. When teams got used to how he was being used the TOs dropped off.There is already talk of him having a expanded role. I think the chances of that being successful can be helped by having someone who can play FS(single high) JMO of course......

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2020/03/mead-steelers-2020-mock-draft-version-1-0/

https://steelersdepot.com/2020/01/2020-nfl-draft-player-profiles-california-s-ashtyn-davis/

 

There is no FS back up on the roster right now and one should be targeted in the draft. There are a couple of "wannabes" on the PS and filling out the ST's duties but no one the defense could plug in with any reliability. They brought Kam Kelly in because they had no one to back up Sean Davis. Then he got exposed when SD went down. Thank you Sean Davis for going down early in the season!!

After neglecting the position in the draft for so many years, they finally invested a 1st in getting MF and they should at least invest a mid rounder this year in his back-up.

 

Thank you ,for a minute I thought I was going crazy......or should I say crazier. There’s also the situation with TE. What if he shows a lack of awareness at the position again? What if the do decide to use him as a SS/LB in sub packages? It would be fantastic to have another FS that can cover. JMO....

 

No, you're still crazy... welcome to the club though, the conversations are great.

With all these new shiny DB coaches who supposedly can turn PS guys into viable starters, I thought I'd see a marked improvement in TE34 towards the end of the season when he could focus on SS. I'm still giving the guy one more year though. Mainly just because the team invested a 1st and he is very athletic and doesn't miss games. He will hopefully improve his ball awareness and clean up some tackling issues. But the need for a #2 FS is undeniable imo.

 

I’m not giving up on TE just yet although the lack of splash plays are alarming. Like you said his availability is a big plus especially because the depth behind him is suspect at best. I still would like to see him more involved around the LOS as a hybrid guy. I believe that’s where his strength is. It would also definitely open up a option in the secondary to add another splash player. I’m not sure even good coaching can improve his awareness and ball skills significantly enough but his superior athleticism could be used in the box...jmo