Tomlin can't wait to run Harris' wheels off

In fact, it was a reception in the season finale vs. Cincy where he injured his knee on a low hit over the middle.

 

He's ready right now for that.

 

It's not so much about the volume as the risk - he ended up at the bottom of several piles in a meaningless game. Zeke Elliott didn't get a carry until the 3rd preseason game as a rookie. He got 7 in that game, and that was it for the entire preaseason.

But by all means do your job and moderate if you don't think the thread is worthwhile.

 

I guess you never watched the NFL in the 70s, and the 80s, RBs got the ball 25-30 times a game.

 

Preseason rushing attempts by recent 1st feature backs, per the Football DB:

Elliott: 7
Barkley: 4
Jacobs: 4
McCaffrey: 17
Gurley: 0

Gurley didn't get a single carry because he was hurt, missed the start of the regular season, ran for 146 in his second game. How is that possible?

hE wAsN't ReaDy!

 

I think he should be under 300 carries myself maddog. Tomlin should have him right around that mark & probably aware of the 300 threshold.

 

I know, it was rare that a back could do that for multiple seasons, but some generational guys did. Maybe Harris is one of those guys.

 

When your narrative that rookie RBs "need work" in preseason is shattered, sarcasm is an easy out I guess.

 

those stats are fine but a few went up. it doesn't take into account linemen injuries, if teams passed more, if teams found a second back that was as talented and he got more carries( some guys get better per game as the carries go up), were they behind so they threw more. there are many variables to those stats per year. how about if he only carries 299 times but catches another 70 passes? he's still getting tackled but they don't count as runs.

we have him for 5 years and it doesn't mean we can't draft another one in two or three years. we drafted snell, mcfarland and samuels while having conner. no reason we wouldn't keep adding a couple of guys every couple of years and weed out the others.

i'm sure ballage, snell< if kept, mcfarland<if kept, samuels< if kept, brooks-james<just added, edmunds< who MT has kept around, watt who may be used more in canada's offense, will all take some heat off of najee. right now he needs field time just as any rookie.

 

So, we've moved the chains on this argument now? It's gone from "running his wheels off" to "not needing preseason work"? What will be the next regression? That he has to actually walk to the team bus? He shouldn't be practicing at all? That's where this silliness is headed.

 

No posts moved. I said he needed very little work and anything else was a risk for injury, a.k.a wheels coming off. Others claimed that rookie RBs needed work to get ready for the regular season, which I rebutted with several recent examples.

If Tomlin plays him in four preseason games he's playing with fire in an unprecedented fashion.

 

I look at this as there is no right or wrong as I see both sides of this. I don't believe rookies need more time to learn the plays more than other players who have coaching changes or its their 1st year on a new team. Happens all the time. What isn't in the playbook is how to adjust to game speed of the higher echelon of the game. To me, that is the biggest change from college to NFL. Plays are plays but speed is a bit different and its takes some orchestration with the other members of the offense/defense to get into regular season game mode. Coaches are paid to put their team/players into winning situations and they work and observe them every day. I haven't seen one practice in all my years so I don't know what they know. Computer coaching using hindsight analytics isn't a luxury any coaches have. So, in my opinion, NH needs to get up to NFL game speed as much as his coaches say he needs. How's that for sitting on a fence?

 

Rb is maybe the easiest position to transition to in the nfl.

 

I don't have a problem with Harris getting 5-7 carries in preseason, he shouldn't play in the fourth preseason game though.

 

People used to have cranks on the front of their cars to start them, they used to wait for the afternoon paper for the latest news. They used to 3-5 TV Chanel’s without an antenna. They don’t do that anymore

 

If he can't handle that then he isn't going to last long in the regular season no matter what we do with him.

 

It's not whether or not he can "handle" it, of course he can. You don't want him out there behind 3rd string linemen getting run into the ground by guys fighting to make the team if you can help it, though.

 

Harris was out after the third offensive series, not quite halfway through the second.

 

He practices every day. He doesn't need to be tackled at full speed in practice games to play in the NFL if he's as good as advertised. I already showed you that.

BTW, Taylor ran for 100 yards in his 2nd game after having 0 preseason games.

I really don't need help proving my point, but thanks anyway.