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They're saying Tomlin is most overrated coach possible ever. Fact or Fiction?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SDOT, May 21, 2021.

  1. Coachbuzz

    Coachbuzz Member

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    I have been saying this on my blog Tank Tomlin for 5 years now. You can recite his accomplishments all you want but you need to compare him to other coaches who have the same talent pool fan base and resources. Tomlin without a doubt has had the strongest coaches and players on both sides of the ball. Look at the Steelers roster and talent pool every year. Tomlin has had the makings of a super bowl contender every year. However, he has come up short almost every year and won it through luck and adversity hitting other teams. Tomlin CANNOT get a clear system working and fails to get the best out his players year in and year out. A coaches goal is to put a system together and have the players buy into the system by building a culture of team and of winning. We all experienced this shocking downfall last year did we not. Tomlin bred a culture of loosing and the players bought into it.
    No doubt steeler nation would be a happier logic Tomlin was ranked 6-7 years ago
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Get some new material, clown, your act is tired :facepalm:.
     
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  3. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin

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    Like who?
     
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  4. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    What you call an act is a legitimate argument.

    Maybe you need some new material?
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Sorry.:shrug: I do always look 2 both sides of an argument.
    I see a lot of post that I agree with most of what someone is saying, and not all of it.
    Also ....I am a Dude that can say .....Sh!+...I was wrong, and New facts can , and will sway Me.
    I try not 2 be so hard headed, and unmovable in my opinions.
    Did 2 much of that in my younger years, and it amounted 2 nothing, and I mean nothing good.
    If we are talking children...well they would be well out of the house, and home by now....so it would be Grandchildren.
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Thank You Very Much.
    I wasn't always known as such.
    So I do try. Some times it's not so easy.
    In my younger more testosterone filled days...Well..I was considered...Hot Headed, Hardheaded argumentative, troublemaking, full of myself D!<khead. LoL.
    I try 2 learn from past mistakes.
    Like I'm sure most do.
     
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  7. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Boo hoo, sniff, sniff. Beeyotch
     
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  8. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Essentially we have a Ferrari of a franchise but the powers that be are perfectly fine having an ice cream truck driver at the wheel.
     
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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Taking up for your BF now :rolleyes:
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, lame ass use the same joke over and over :facepalm:.
     
  11. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we're going out next weekend.
     
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  12. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    FFS Glenn, GTFOH with your fake ass hall monitor badge. Against the rules... you know where you can stick that, right?
     
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  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Still working on the training

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    :facepalm:
     
  14. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    :popcorn:
     
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  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Still working on the training

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    :drinks: :popcorn:

    I brought both.
     
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  17. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Dude you might want to get that Facepalming checked. It's getting worse.
     
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  18. Kevin

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    Easily the most overrated coach inhistory. Making the playoffs and going home in week one is no different than not making it at all in my book. That crap might fly in Cleveland or Cincy. Maybe I’m confused on what standard is the standard. I assumed it was Lombardi’s . We all know why he gets the pass and why he gets an extension this year ...after we were told that he had to prove something to be brought back.
     
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  19. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he got a pass. Share with us all why you believe he got a pass? That way we can know your real agenda here.

    The Standard set by the Steelers is winning and competing for the Superbowl. They won enough games last year to compete for the Superbowl. They fell short for several reasons.

    Considering the Steelers only won 6 Superbowls (11%) out of 55 that's not really a realistic standard. Competing and winning is the more realistic standard. Winning is something the Steelers accomplished well over the years.
     
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  20. Seven4Steel

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    Me too...I'm just not any good at it!

    And I was just messing with ya. Hope it came across that way.
     
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  21. KMM

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    The title of this thread is ridiculous.

    It's not like Tomlin went 7-9 in his fourth season as HC and then was immediately hired by a team to replace Pete Carroll after 1 year. Not only gettting HC job but also GM. Now that's overrated.
     
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  22. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    So are you saying Belichick is overrated? He has two more rings than Noll... plus he earned 2 previously as DC for Giants. 8 total. Hardly overrated, IMHO.
     
  23. Steel Hog

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    Mostly agree with the exception of strongest coaches. We just got rid of a few who were terrible and had some other one's released before that (i.e. Joey Porter). I am one that believes the HC is the orchestrator of a team and not the one who is doing the actual coaching. Much like a principle in a school. One of the more important tasks that a HC owns is establishing the overall culture of his staff and players. He should be relying on his coordinators for X's and O's tactics, setting up players to succeed, etc. That, to me, is what has failed MT, especially in PO games where game preparation is so important. The coaches on his staff haven't done him any favors IMO. Hence, the MT coaching tree bearing little to no fruit. Leadership requires that there is accountability and lands on the one in charge who is responsible for everything a team does or fails to do. I just think he gets blamed for what others should be blamed for but he is the one in charge and it goes with the title.
     
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  24. Rollers

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    My biggest gripe about Tomlin is you NEVER hear him advertising on the NFL station on sirius. You hear the coach of the Browns, and a ton of others but no Tomlin! This is an area of his coaching that he must step up and fix immediately!
     
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  25. The Sodfather

    The Sodfather Well-Known Member

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    His players never quit on him, but they don't play hard enough as a team at times. He refuses to try and bond them as a team with discipline. He seems to feel they are all professionals, and as professionals the team bonding should be there. I think it's a fatal flaw with an otherwise good football coach.
     
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