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They're saying Tomlin is most overrated coach possible ever. Fact or Fiction?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SDOT, May 21, 2021.

  1. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I agree with all of the stats, and that the Jags were a very good team in 2017. However I also believe that the Steelers gifted that game to the Jags, and I’m not just talking about the early turnovers. I’m talking about one of the most gutless, weak defensive performances I’ve seen as a fan. After a rough start, the B’s started doing what we all wanted to see when they finally all played together in a postseason game. They lit the Jags up starting late in the 2nd quarter, but the defense consistently allowed the Jags to make improbable 3rd down conversions, and basically played like trash. You can view that as the offense of the Jags making player, but when I watched it multiple times I saw glaring defensive lapses on key plays that should simply have never happened. I’m not going to go back and rewatch again to find examples, but one of them was a prayer heave downfield that caught Mike Mitchell dreaming about what he was going to do with his off-season. Another was an underneath pass where the entire team pretended that there was no slot receiver even on the field, even after he caught the ball. Fundamental lapses from a defense that was beat even though the offense was fighting back and feeding them with momentum. It still sickens me to think about it. Yeah, the Jags were a solid team, but if our defense just plays “OK” football in that second half, we win.

    Edit: one more thing. Calling an outside run on 4th and 1 against the fastest linebackers in the NFL was pretty $&&*(ing stupid too.
     
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  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    You are correct about a lot here. This was during a time our Offense could have won a lot , but our D was always letting us down.
    Last Year was one of the 1st times I've seen both sides start working at the same time....then...Bam...injuries, on injuries, and everything fell apart. IMO.
     
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  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I guess Cowher didn't have the team prepared to play, or they were playing down to the competition :shrug:.
     
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  4. Seven4Steel

    Seven4Steel Well-Known Member

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    I agree with that, but you kinda missed my point about a 4-win team. It was only to stress my perception of a team's season's success.
     
  5. Seven4Steel

    Seven4Steel Well-Known Member

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    I guess I deserved that, after my recent rash of Glemm comments. :drinks:
     
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  6. Seven4Steel

    Seven4Steel Well-Known Member

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    HOW DARE YOU USE THE OTHER SIDE'S WORDS AGAINST THEM!!!
     
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  7. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Abused by who?? You old man??

    HAHA
     
  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Still working on the training

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    Nah, I was thinking about the other 90% of the people on the board.
     
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  9. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Sure thing Bubba. If you think people drooling over Mike TOMLIN is abusing me then I guess the joke is on you?
     
  10. SteelerGlenn

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    It sure seems to trigger certain people.
     
  11. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin

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    :rolleye:
     
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  12. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Certain topics will usually generate around 15+ pages of regurgitated opinionated statements and Tomlin is top of the list in that regard.
     
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  13. Confluence

    Confluence Well-Known Member

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    this thread makes General Hospital watchable
     
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  14. Confluence

    Confluence Well-Known Member

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  15. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Cowher teams weren't immune to the same problems that Tomlin teams have. The difference is for the most part they didn't happen as frequently or consistently. And for the record I wanted Bill Cowher run out of town too.
     
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  16. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Biggest Difference is Cowher didn’t have a franchise QB until his last couple years. TOMLIN has had Ben his whole crappy playoff career.
     
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  17. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    True that Houston loss was Tommy Gun Maddox who played awful. When Cowher took a detour and went pass heavy.
     
  18. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    True
     
  19. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    That crappy playoff career yielded two SB appearances.
     
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  20. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Yea 15 years ago when he inherited a pro bowl defense with Troy Farrior Porter Hampton A Smith etc

    What’s he done lately besides **** the bed in big games?

    Answer. Nothing

    I honestly don’t understand how you guys watch the same team I do and defend this man like he is your own son.
     
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  21. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    Again. I wanted to move on from Tomlin a few years ago. I’m just not going to diminish what he’s accomplished in his time here.
     
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  22. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    I mean he’s had good regular seasons sure but his playoff record and end of year records lately are horrendous. I agree he should have been gone years ago.
     
  23. SteelerGlenn

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    Ok I agree, but dang man it’s just so repetitive.
     
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  24. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Still working on the training

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    It’s like listening to a parrot.
     
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  25. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Still working on the training

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    :facepalm:
     

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