The Steelers ranked as the second best dynasty in NFL history

I think it's a huge stretch to say that cheating is the sole reason the Steelers didn't win those games. Even after Spygate, Brady and co still spanked us on a regular basis.

 

It wasn't the only reason, the uncalled forward lateral on the blocked FG return in 2001 also helped.

 

In one of those games that we think they cheated Plexico was the actual culprit.

 

The Cowboys won 3 titles in 5 years, the Steelers won 2 in 6 years, the Dolphins are going to get a lot of credit for their undefeated season, they went to 3 Super Bowls and won 2 of them.

 

I thought Pouncey got hurt during the AFC Championship game vs. Jets. He was healthy for Ravens game in divisional round.

 

Thanks, that's correct.

 

I think the Patriots dynasty should be split into two separate dynasties. When I think of a dynasty, a dynasty tends to have the same core for an extended period of time. The Bulls dynasty had Pippin and Jordan, the 49ers had Montana and Craig, Cowboys had Smith and Irvin plus that defense, and we all know who the core of the Steelers teams of the 70s. Point being, the Patriots from 01-06 and from 12-19 were drastically different teams with completely different cores. The only bridge between the two is Billichek and Brady. The Patriots teams between 07-11 weren't bad. They won division titles and such, even made it to a SB I believe.

 

If the Steelers had just drafted Dan Marino, the 90's would have seen a couple Super Bowl wins, at least.

 

The 70 Steelers when they played in the playoffs, you new ahead of time that they were going to win and they did. They we so much better then everybody else. During the 2000 Pats you weren't sure who was going to win in the playoffs, but they usually did.

 

If the Steelers had drafted Marino our draft order would've changed. We wouldn't have gotten most of those players we had in the 90s. We'll never know what would've happened had we drafted Marino. At least not until I perfect the interdimensional machine I'm working on. Only them will we know what happened in an alternate universe.

 

This is true. Had Steelers drafted Marino... they may not have been able to draft Woodson and Lloyd.

Steelers 1984 team was pretty good.... Marino instead of Malone would have made a difference... possibly beating the 15-1 49ers in the Super Bowl that year. Hell... the Steelers beat the 9ers with Malone in the regular season in this universe.

 

Marino was getting crushed by Buffalo in the 90s.
One of them other non-dynasties. ​

 

If Marino had been drafted by the Steelers he’d have won 3 times as many SBs as he did in Miami.

 

The Patriots deserve to be on this list. No doubt about that. However, I disagree with the timeline. I think the Patriots could potentially be listed twice just as the Cowboys are. Many players were on their first three super bowl wins, but only Brady/Belichick were left from the first three wins to their last three. I would still argue the Steelers should be first on the list having so 22 players on all four super bowls. Also, can the Raiders really be counted for 1967-1985? That also seems to be a bit of a stretch.

 

The Raiders made the Super Bowl in each decade 67-85.

 

3 x 0 = 0

 

Kirkland's, Lloyd's, Chad Brown's, were all Non-1st round picks. Kevin Greene was a free agent. Steelers almost won the Super Bowl without Rod Woodson so you cant say if they do not get him because of draft selection, it would have mattered as much. The Steelers would have had the best defense in the NFL, best Qb in the NFL in my opinion at the time and Bill Cowher who was extremely underrated when it came to adapting to his talent. Remember, "Conservative" Cowher put together the 5 wide receiver offense in 95 and created the "slash" player like no one before. Cowher was not Marty Ball or Chuck Knox, he had skills to adapt. He just didnt get his franchise QB until his last 3 years.

 

IMO.
Once You change the Qb you change the complexity of the Team.
Also Marino wasn't known for Loving 2 run the ball, so there goes the Bus , and a big key 2 the Defense because of time of possession which Bill C . loved.
I mean. I don't know , and Neither does anyone claiming it would have meant a bunch more SB.
Kind of Like all those SBs that I heard people say A. Rodgers was getting after his 1st.
Also You can not claim(demand)a Quarter of Your salary cap , and wonder were is all Your help. That goes for all players.

 

It absolutely would’ve changed the complexity of our drafts and the make up of the team. Plus Rod Woodson did play in the Super Bowl that we lost.

 

Bill who? Does Noll retire with Marino in his prime and a couple more rings? What if the Steelers snuff out the budding Browns' and Bengals' success in the 80's and they turn over more head coaches? Bill could have ended up coaching the Browns.

What if Dan's contract comes up just as the era of free agency begins and like so many other free agents back then, he goes to the highest bidder? Dan could have been the QB version of Chad Brown or Eric Green or Leon Searcy and ended up as one of the most reviled Steelers among fans.

For all we know, Dan could have still popped his achilles in a Dolphins uniform, causing an avalanche of hate posts on AOL message boards from bitter Steeler fans.

Have a nice day.

 

Knoll?

Shula was a run-first, ground and pound defensive coach until he got drunk with Marino's powers. Nobody knows how Noll or Cowher would have reacted when that genie came out of the lamp.

 

True.

I was rewatching a Steelers Oilers game from 1989 the other day... slow news day lol.. and one thing the commentators were mentioning was how Noll was being accused of being stuck in his ways. I seem to recall he took a long time to adopt the shotgun as well.

Not a criticism of Noll, just food for thought on how Marino might have gone down in Pittsburgh.