The Steelers have received calls about Mason Rudolph

We may end up being thin if the OL doesn’t protect well, but until then we’re not thin at QB.

 

It is going to be curious to see who gets the #2 helmet on gameday.

Right now I am hoping it is Mason. This will keep the gameday fans out of it, and there is no reason to throw Kenny to the slaughter behind this offensive line.

Everyone is trying to compare this to 2019, but we had 3 pro bowlers on that offensive line.

 

That's a stretch by any standards. To say they ate not happy with Mitch or Kenny has no bearing on ditching MR. They went through a recent season where 3 QBs were needed...they might move him if they like an offer, but with this line thinking of another duck is more than enough to keep a relatively cheat vet back up. With the horrid line he had MR still has a winning record as a back up..not much but him knowing the system and even standing like a statue is likely better than what they will find.

Signing Mitch was always a stop gap plan..especially once they drafted Kenny. You or for that matter no one knows what they feel they have. Total bs post

 

I don't see that happening, it's not like he's going to just walk into another starting job in the middle of the season.

 

Pickett has earned the #2 if not the #1 QB position. If you want to see ugly hostile crowds all season then name Rudolph #2 and have Kenny in street clothes for the games. The management doesn't want that and all of the national attention it will get. Pickett will be #2 and Trubisky will have a very short leash as #1.

 

Tomlin has yet to name a QB1. Everyone believes it will be Trubisky. Maybe it will be Pickett after all. In that case Trubisky may be worth more on a trade since he is on a 2-year contract. QBs are more of a premium a few weeks into the season due to injuries and emergency need.

 

I would start Mitch for the year. Really let Pickett develop and keep him healthy from this offensive line. Tomlin coached a .500 team with MR and Duck as his QBs, so, I'm sure he can continue to be average with Mitch.

Then, come 2023, draft offensive lineman and middle linebackers until the team is half linebackers & Mike linebackers.

Then start your new franchise QB next year with some stability so he isn't dead by week 8.

 

Ok, lets assume you are correct. So we have a 3rd QB with trade value . We have other needs all over the field. We signed a FA QB and drafted a 1st round QB. We are so happy with these guys that we want to keep our #3 QB (who's clearly unhappy to be the #3). Yea that makes perfect sense. Because history shows we love holding on to relatively expensive #3 qb's. Can never have too much depth. Need a guy to hold that clip board for the other two. And there's no way we can find a #3 QB in the FA market that might be serviceable. (sarcasm).

Not saying the team hates the two QB's we have. I'm saying they must not be sold on a clear #2 at this point. If they were , really is no point hanging on to Mason .

 

I think they just aren't happy with any of the offers they got for Rudolph. It doesn't make sense to give him away. At worst, he is an insurance policy.

 

Should start an over under on how many games we will use multiple QBs this year. I am guessing that in 4 games we will see the Steelers switch QBs during the game.

Right now you have 3 guys on the roster that can run the full playbook. They can keep all 3 QBs without breaking the bank this year. I would also bet money that we will see all 3 QBs in a game this year behind this O-Line.

I would not be happy with a trade this year unless it brought in a starter that could help the team immediately.

 

Don't think Rudolph is going anywhere this year. I bet the plan was bring Ola back on PS if they did and let him run the scout team. KC just picked him up though.

 

Certainly hope your not thinking of our cheerleaders.

 

Where is he gonna go? He was a backup when we signed him. Nobody is going to steal him away from us to start. If that was his trajectory, we wouldn't have the current question mark of who will start between a rook, an underachieving 5th year 1st rounder, and a lifetime backup.

 

I appreciate the sentiment but who is going to develop Pickett better than actually getting playing time? Not seeing any QB whisperers on this coaching staff.

 

What is tampering? Can Mason and his agent start calling teams? Do the Steelers have to publicly announce that they are giving a player permission to seek a trade?

I don't think I have ever heard of a player being accused of tampering, but I am sure it has happened.

I still think with our O-Line there is still a 50% chance we see Mason playing this year, but if he is taking no snaps in practice with the offense, how long before he becomes a problem?

 

If an agent/ player reaches out to a team. And that team responds, then that team gets in trouble. And also I'm pretty sure there is stuff dune to the agent.... hence why they have to be given permission to seek a trade.

Why would Mason want to leave? There's literally no team that would consider making him a starter. If there was, he would have been gone 2 weeks ago

The teams reaching out for a 7th/6th picks are just wanting him as a backup.

 

With everything that has happened this week you still think he is the backup? I can't imagine a worst case scenario than what has happened this week to Mason. First he wins the backup job and then Tomlin takes it away from him 2 days later. I would probably quit and tell my boss to suck it, if I was awarded a promotion and then 2 days later I was told they decided to give it to someone else at my work. (Take this job and Shove it) No, I would probably hang around long enough being a complete ass to collect my severance package before leaving.

He has to feel a little betrayed as he never received a fair shot in camp. As soon as Kenny and Mitch did not fall on their face in the preseason games, he was quickly shown the mop room. Neith Mitch nor Kenny started out great in camp; This was the reason that Mason was allowed to run with the #1s at training camp for a while.

Now, getting back to the tampering question; does the team have to publicly state that Mason and his agent have permission to try and work a trade with another team? You always hear about how somebody has been given permission to begin talking to other teams about getting their own trade done. I am assuming once a player has been given permission, then other teams can start contacting him directly, rather than having to go through the front office first.

 

Mason is getting paid regardless what position he is in.

Also having pickett second let's mitch know he has to stay performing or else. (And what was first released was an unofficial depth chart. Everyone in the locker room knows agar the real depth chart is).

Also don't forget that mitch was holding camps at his house in Florida. And what did Mason do? That's right he decided to stay at home every time..... so how can he expect respect from the team, when he's given none.


So if mason is anything like you're explaining. Then his best bet is to shut up, collect his huge contract for a #3 QB, keep showing he knows the playbook and will help the main QB know what to do better..... because if he does anything stupid he'll be finding no one that wants him.


As for tampering. Once it is announced publicly (Which doesn't mean to us. But rappaport leaks those fast). The agent is told what the trade has to be worth, as well what teams they cannot talk to, and lastly what they'll do to their contract.

 

If the OLine wasn’t the worst in the league I would agree but it is so we can’t have him get killed or his confidence ruined running for his life. Let Trubisky get slaughtered and have Kenny study film and game situation. If the O Line improves as the year goes on and we are not in playoff contention you could bring him in then or just wait for next year and hope we address OL in the draft.

 

You want him to get a feel for the way the weeks preparation and a good sense of diagnosing what teams try to do that changes the game plan. In-game diagnosis and adjustments at the NFL level, pace of play-calling and a feel from the sideline before you just throw him in there and say "Sink or Swim!"

If you ask most teams that draft a QB in the first round, they would probably say they would want them to sit for a bit and then bring them in.

 

Especially with top quality QBs coming out. They most definitely need to see what Pickett can do because I been craving CJ Shroud for a minute.

 

You cant afford to wait till next season to see what Kenny is with the quality of QBs they have coming out of the draft next season. As far as I'm concerned Kenny is still a reach. Your #1 should be as close to a no-brainer as possible and Kenny was no where close to a no brainer. One good season of college football??! Hes the exact prototype of the guy he's playing behind who was a high draft reach after one good season at his school...and most would agree Trubisky at this point in his career is real iffy at best.

They need to find out quickly if Pickett is the truth, poor offensive line or not. He's just gonna have to take his lumps like Burrow (he's pretty good last I checked and his confidence is not swayed by his OL). Mason should be a afterthought and not the source of multiple threads on here unless its confirmation of his trade. His opportunity to shine as a 3rd rd draft pick has come and gone because he's failed repeatedly when it would count for something. It's time for people to stop talking about him like he's a victim on here all the while acting like they dont know this is a business.

 

I don't think that is true - i.e. Trevor Lawrence, Mac Jones, Zach Wilson, Dak, Mariota, Wentz, Winston, Derek Carr, Luck, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Mike Glennon, Joe Flacco. Many of these guys weren't even 1st rounders. For the teams who do draft and sit 1st round QBs for a future starter, I would argue that most already have a starter installed for that rook to learn from. Maybe not a future HOFer but at least someone who has proven ability to start and win games. Hardly the case here in Pittsburgh. I havent seen anything from either of the other QBs on the roster that says they deserve the #1 spot ahead of Pickett. If he is really the future, then the future is now. Start him.

 

This ain't T-ball. Everybody doesn't get a participation trophy. Everybody doesn't get to play. The team doesn't owe him anything but his salary.

Yes, for a week or so when his years with the team were an advantage, Rudolph looked better in practice. Once all three had practiced enough that the advantage no longer mattered, it became clear that Rudolph was the worst of the three. Before that, Tomlin was smart enough to see the bigger picture and look at everything on the resumes of Trubisky and Rudolph, not just a few throws in camp with no pressure in their faces.

That is the really funny part of the narrative you and others keep trying to push. Rudolph looked better when there was no pass rush. That has always been one of his biggest flaws. He has terrible pocket presence and often makes awful decisions when under pressure. It is one of the reasons those early training camp statistics were nearly meaningless, but some folks here sure were fooled by them.