The BIG BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!!!!!

the stats were put there because BF said he stunk when he left here basicly, i was showing he's been pretty consistant here and there. so rant all you want with your memory of gay but he was never brought here to be the starter then or now. there are also other parts to the game than interceptions. especially in DL's defenses. gay has been a good find then and now, not just since lakes been coaching him. you can say all you want about him in arizona and how bad he was, but yet the steelers brought him back. are you saying we brought back a bad player? hmmmm, interesting thought snack. i guess we should be talking about KC then instead of lake. thank God we have lake because of the junk KC keeps bringing in here.

 

ideally we should have 2 good cbs on the outside and gay in the nickel
and a ballhawk free safety in the middle

IDEALLY ........

 

I also added basicly. you cut your highlight off 1 word short. his stats are pretty consistent with every other year he has played.

 

What in the HELL are you talking about?? I don't know where to start with this. You're often reasonable mac, but sometimes you're like a brick wall that lost its reading glasses.

 

I completely understand Mac's point. What's so hard about it?

 

well if he wasn't very good except for early and he got worse in Arizona, what else would that make him but basicly stink? gay is a nickel corner and that's what we brought him here to do, not start. as I said he's been our deshea townsend 2.0. he's been steady eddie his whole career. not spectacular but not too bad either. vets tend to get better the more they see and gay is in that prime spot of his career to be playing better. all I know is we stink in our secondary and if you guys are happy with where we are good for you, but I'm not. we may as well of not signed ben because at this point we will never contend with our defensive backfield the way it is or has been the last few years. lakes doing or not it's a mess. nobody is to blame and we will leave it at that. speaking of talking to walls. I'm done with this.

thank you elvis, pretty well put I'd say.

 

At this point guys it is all speculation and conjecture since Lake really hasn't been given the talent to have a stellar defensive backfield nor do we know how different Butler will run his coverages behind his front seven. To further muddy the waters Tomlin is going to be more hands on with the defense than he has in the past. One of the first big indicators we had was free agency and while kicking the tires on some middle of the road talent they didn't make a splash. The next indicator and I think it will be huge will be the draft and if they go the way many of you think then we will have our answer. Lake will have top flight talent to work with and possibly have some restrictions lessened. So we will see what sinks and what floats.

 

elvis has just left the building after that.

 

Geeez, I leave you guys alone for 24 hours to keep up with the Masters and this thread devolves into a poo-fest!

 

Watched it too. That was fun to watch!

 

I know Cortez was "hurt", but I think it was a mistake for the Coaching staff to bench him and then IR him. It probably did more harm to his mindset than good.

They should have let him play through it. On some of those deep balls he gave up he was close to making a play if his technique was better.

 

But what about Cortez?

 

He's no "elephant in th room"
Quite the opposite actually!

 

cortez was kicked out of the room.

 

Will he stay kicked out?

 

doubtful.

 

I am not impressed with his game, lets hope the Steelers draft his replacement.

 

That's not a DB, that's a nose tackle. You can't fool me.