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Steelers working to trade Pickens to the Cowboys

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by uncblue012, May 7, 2025 at 6:54 AM.

  1. Busman

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    Not for me. I am not happy to see him go under the circumstances and the timing is terrible because we really do not know at this point if this is for a more positive future move. Perhaps there is more to the story then we actually know. GP is gone but it's not a bad ti
     
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  3. Formerscribe

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    No worries. :drinks:

    I think I see the disconnect. I am not doubting he did any of those things. We know he took plays off. I have been harshly critical of him for that. We know there are times he refuses to block. We know about the issues with opposing players and fans. Those are facts, but what I'm questioning is if he is a cancer in the locker room. We don't know how his teammates feel. That they were willing to spend time talking him down on the sideline is a good thing. They weren't yelling at him. They weren't turning their backs on him. They were trying to help him, which makes me think the locker room cancer thing is overstated at best in this case.
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

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    Just because they were willing to babysit him doesnt mean they wanted to, they are grown men trying to focus on a game. Im sure they’d rather he have grown the **** up so they didn’t have to deal with it.

    As for what you are seeking, someone posted a link today about players being sick of him.
     
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  5. Formerscribe

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    I'm not sure anybody is angry that he is gone, but the team failing to bring in a valid replacement first and not getting proper value for him are issues.
     
  6. Formerscribe

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    I didn't see it. Yes, that would be evidence that he was an issue in the locker room. It is possible that although they didn't like his behavior, they thought he was worth having around anyway.
     
  7. strummerfan

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    I would say you’re still having a bit of a knee jerk reaction. I think we are better off now at wr than last year. Metcalf is a better overall receiver than Pickens and Woods is an upgrade over anyone that was wr2 last year. With that being said I would like for them to bring in another wr before the season starts. They have draft capital to trade away if that’s what it requires. There’s also the simple fact losing Pickens improves team chemistry. If you listen to the people that actually cover the Steelers and not the talking heads on espn it’s shocking the crap the team dealt with regarding picksens. The Steelers would assign someone to keep Pickens from arguing with fans in the stands? They brought in that wr coach solely because he was known for dealing with head cases.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    Probably another free agent. I saw somewhere that the Steelers haven’t met spending obligations on the cap yet?
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    I'm well past the knee-jerk reaction, but they still handled this poorly. They did not get enough value for the trade to be worth it. They weakened the team with this move. They are far worse at receiver than they were before the trade.

    Better than last year is still a very low bar and I'm not even sure they cleared it. Pickens has been limited by many factors beyond his control. For most of two years, he was stuck in an offense run by Matt Canada. He has had inconsistent quarterback play. Metcalf is better at running routes and creating space for himself, but Pickens is better at catching the ball in traffic. I do not accept your premise that Woods is better than what they had last year. That was true four or five years ago, but his play has deteriorated badly.

    Regarding team chemistry, look at some of the crap Metcalf has done over the year. He is far from a model citizen.
     
  10. strummerfan

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    Pretty sure it’s 97% spent over the course of 3 years. We will spend a fair amount extending watt. Not sure there are any free agents out there that will move the needle much when it comes to salary cap.
     
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  11. strummerfan

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    You seem to think this is madden and teams can just force trades. It doesn’t work that way. All reports coming out now were the Steelers receiving a 4th for Pickens. Obviously that wasn’t to their liking and they managed to get a third. I’m an ideal world they could have gotten more, but every team out there has seen the bs Pickens pulls regularly. I’m sure you’ve seen the reports from today where teams laughed at the prospect of trading for Pickens. The Steelers are lucky to have gotten a third from a desperate Jerry jones.
     
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  12. Formerscribe

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    Clearly, you misread what I wrote. I never argued that they should have been able to force teams to give them more. I wrote that because they couldn't get more, they should have held on to him. They weren't lucky at all. They were foolish to make a deal when they knew they couldn't get enough in return to make it worthwhile.
     
  13. strummerfan

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    They got a 3rd round pick in next years draft over possibly 3rd round pick in 2027 when he left via free agency.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    That isn't much in light of what they lost. We've seen what the offense can look like with only one quality starter at receiver. Do you really want to watch that again?

    Maybe they will add a replacement, but that will cost them resources they wouldn't have had to spend if they had just kept him.
     
  15. strummerfan

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    As I’ve already stated I believe we are already better off with metcalf and woods than Pickens and Jefferson/whomever. I also believe they will add another wr. Who and when is yet to be determined. It should be abundantly clear to you and everyone else Pickens was a huge problem for the Steelers. The people in that building dealing with his **** everyday believe they’re better off without Pickens than with. That should speak volumes to you. Nobody is doubting Pickens talent, but clearly his talent wasn’t worth the detrimental effects it had on the team
     
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  16. Steelpens65

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    Once again, this was on 93.7 the fan, someone said teams were absolutely laughing at the Steelers for trying to get a 3rd pick for Pickens.
    They didn’t even want him in their locker room as a visitor. I really don’t know how you can still be bent that we got a 3rd for him.
    No-one and I repeat, no one wanted Pickens except for the Cowboys. Steelers got rid of the pebble in the shoe.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    I read that it was during the draft and that teams were laughing at the idea of giving up a 2nd rd pick and inviting that into their locker room.

    Either way, there was much more going on then us fans new about.
     
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  18. Steelpens65

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    Metcalf fits right into Tomlin’s culture being a headcase. But, in all fairness, DK a better wr than Pickens.
     
  19. Formerscribe

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    That is their opinion, but that doesn't mean it is true. Showing that teams can rip them off any time one of their players acts up isn't good.

    I know that your opinion is that Metcalf and Woods is an improvement, but that doesn't mean it is true. Woods is not a good player any more. He certainly isn't a viable starter.
     
  20. strummerfan

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    Years ago I read a book about Hollywood henderson(terrible book), but in the book he talked about how while he was with Dallas it was as if he was protected: they kept a lid on everything. He even talks about doing cocaine on the field. I truly believe there’s a ton hidden from us by the teams and to some extent the NFL. They do everything in their power to keep **** under wraps and keep that tv revenue coming in.
     
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  21. D0bre Shunka

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    Best hands I’ve ever seen in my life.
    One step forward, two steps back.
     
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  22. Mashburn

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    I think it's funny how he actually didn't say anything negative about the Steelers. While the Steelers jumped to talking bad about him where a coach said there was a ton of meetings issues.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

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    I guess thats one way to look at it.
     

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