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Steelers high on Nolan Smith

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by Steelresolve, Apr 26, 2023.

  1. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    Man if we take him in the first we better have a plan for him. Edge at 17 is a waste of a draft pick for us when we have so many other needs. His athletic ability reminds me of Shazier though. If they took him I really hope he would play a lot of ILB for us as well.
     
  2. Brice

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    I don't understand the OLB or DT need at all. No matter who they bring in, unless they are showing someone the door this year they are set for starters.

    Watt and Highsmith those are your 2023 Starters. Are you trading one of these guys this year.

    Cam and Larry O. Larry'O just signed a 3 year guaranteed contract, so you know he is not going anywhere.

    Why are we talking about drafting backup players with the #17 or 32 pick? A starting CB, or OT would be great; if the right ILB or Safety is there that could come in and start that would also work.

    Unless Cam is leaving town, I could see him playing another 3 years. I don't think Cam has missed a game in like 6 years.
     
  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    OLB and DL are right there with corner in the need stack. Probably even higher than T for 2023, though I still prefer to get a long-term LT in the 1st if one is available. We must get a quality rotational player for 2023 at edge, and we may need a starter on the D line depending on whether Leal can take a step forward and be an every down player (I’m skeptical). We’ve got very little behind our starters at either edge or D line unless you like subpar backups and practice squad talent getting meaningful snaps if we have a single injury or need to keep someone from wearing out by taking every single snap. I would be pretty frickin bummed if we took Nolan Smith at #17, but I’d also be bummed if we come away with no one who can play meaningful snaps at edge and not be a complete liability.

    *edit - after typing the above, I went back and watched a few games of the Georgia defense focusing on Smith, and I’m no longer sure that I’d be really bummed if we take him at #17. The talent is there. The passion is there. He plays the game fast, and is technically sound and plays his assignment well on every snap. My concern is that I don’t know where he fits. He is a really solid college edge defender vs. both the pass and run, but can he hold up vs. NFL tackles? He probably has more athleticism than just about any LB currently in the NFL, but does he have the ability to play off-the-ball LB mentally? I don’t know because we’ve really only seen him play the edge with simpler reads than an ILB.
     
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  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    DL is still a need, Loudermilk regressed last season, and they don't know what they have in Leal.
     
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  5. Vox Ferrum

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    I understand the thought, CB and T..instant starters etc., but in reality you build a team for not only this years needs, but for the future. In todays NFL the 1st rounder is often expected to be a starter, but not always. Edge is a critical position in our D, beyond Alex and TJ we have very little and Alex is on his last year. They might be able to sign him, but it is really going to be difficult to put that much in and keep other pieces that will be coming up on O. You can see Cam playing 3 more years, but at that age it really comes down to year to year for the player and the organization. His desire and level of play can drop very quickly, it just happens. I have no idea, especially this year, but nothing is going to surprise me.
     
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  6. SteelersfaninPhilly

    SteelersfaninPhilly Well-Known Member

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    BPA over need and Smith would be a very nice depth piece.
     
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  7. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see them taking Smith at #17.
     
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  8. Dax777

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    32. Either him or Will McDonald. I prefer. McDonald personally. But will be excited by either
     
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  9. strummerfan

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    I’ve seen where people project him more as an ilb. A three down ilb that can cover is definitely a position of need.
     
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  10. strummerfan

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    You can’t think solely of this year. A gm has to be thinking about the team 2-3 years down the road. Cam was good last season, but he is getting up there and it’s just a matter of time before he’s done.
     
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  11. mac daddyo

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    wormley was a backup as well and ended up playing significant snaps for us. we have some depth that have logged game reps and very good game reps as backups and part time starters. i'm not afraid of them playing bigger roles if needed and it may also actually help prolong heywards career if they can. loudermilk has talent but the lingering injury set him back last year. leal should get better as a 2nd year player. the talent is there. i think we are in better shape on the DL then some think. :cool:
     
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  12. Formerscribe

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    I imagine they are thinking they can move him inside. They have had some great success in the past doing it. Chat Brown, Levon Kirkland, and Lawrence Timmons are all examples.

    I'd be a lot happier with a cornerback or offensive tackle with the first two picks, or perhaps Mazi Smith at 32 if he falls that far.
     
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  13. Steel_Elvis

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    I don’t know if this is true or not, but I read that he had let slip in an interview that he wasn’t able to play LB at Georgia because he wasn’t able to handle the mental aspects of the position. Whether that’s true or not, we have really only seen him play the edge. LB is a position that requires a high football IQ and understanding of what his assignments are, and what his teammates are doing. Slow mental processing negates physical speed. I am not saying he can’t handle LB mentally, I’m saying we just don’t know.
     
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  14. Steel_Elvis

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    If Cam gets hurt, we instantly have the worst DL in the league. I know there are some career backups and UDFAs that are the apple of your eye, but there’s not much that can be relied on. When you’re counting on a guy like Leal to be the 3rd best D lineman, the position is thin as all hell.
     
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  15. strummerfan

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    I live here and haven’t heard that, but certainly disconcerting if true. The Steelers ask a whole lot more of their inside linebackers than running forward
     
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  16. Steelresolve

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    The need for DT, Edge and CB are all there. If one starter goes down we have little to no depth in those areas. Cam going down would have the same impact as Watt going down last year. My biggest issue is go with the strengths of the draft. Just because we need an OT doesn’t mean we should force it and reach for one. At the very least we should come out of this draft with solid depth and potential starter capable CB’s and Edge as those two positions are deep. I would rather see us solidify those positions when we know we can with a draft like this than miss out on those pieces by reaching for an OT instead.

    You knock those positions out it really will be two less positions you have to worry about next year.
     
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  17. Brice

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    To me it is simple we need a starting CB and LT. We do not need a Starting DT or OLB.

    I was shocked when I read that Larry O had signed a 3 year guaranteed contract. There is no way the Steelers draft a D-Lineman in the 1st even if Jalen Carter is available, because the Rooney's will not let a player walk with $21 million guaranteed, and I would hope that they would not be showing Cam the door for the next 3 years either.


    I just watched a podcast and they said that right now Game for Game, Kenny Picket has more Concussions than Tua. I wonder how worried the Steelers are about this stat?
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    I've not heard that. Do You remember what You heard that on???
     
  19. S.T.D

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    With Tua ....it's not just concussions. When was the last time Tua didn't get injured in some big way??? High school???
     
  20. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    This:this!:
     
  21. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    No
     
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  22. KnoxVegasSteel

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    IMO depth on defense is a luxury when your OL is still bottom half of the league. Much improved last season but we still need a lot of help at T and C.
     
  23. mac daddyo

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    well i'm sure we should have a HOF'er behind every all pro on the team but isn't that the same for every team out there? so a rookie will save the day. OK then. good strategy. i believe near everyone behind them were draft picks.

    watt was a 6th rounder.
    wren was a 6th rounder
    marshall was a 6th rounder.
    loudermilk was a 5th rounder
    ogunjobi was a 3rd rounder
    leal was a 3rd rounder
    adams was a 3rd round pick
    fehoko was undrafted, so you were right about one.

    if we still had wormley would you feel better? he was a career backup.

    my God if najee goes down that stinking UDFA career backup will be sure to bring us down and suck.

    okrafor that career backup 3rd round piece of crap has had to start for us, how will we survive?

    that stinking career backup 1st round pick QB of ours finally got on the field, my God we lost our starter. no other player on an NFL roster is capable of such a feat.

    what the hell were kahn and weidl thinking. get out the pitch forks and hang them for such a debacle. fire them immediately.

    c'mon elvis.:cool:
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    Some of the final mocks I had today have Smith gone well before the Steelers pick. That would be a good thing. Anything that helps them get a better tackle or cornerback at 17.
     
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  25. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    You’re so funny :thumbs_up:
     
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