SO, just how bad IS the offense?

That’s what I was hoping you would say

Because STD was definitely talking about MC

 

The problem is finding a bigger shiat show than Pittsburgh. We are sitting very near the bottom so I can't think of a team that would require Tomlin's capabilities at the moment.

 

Tomlins overall record would definitely land him a job somewhere if he wanted to continue coaching.

 

Of course. I agree. The moment he is done the phone will ring.

 

Hopefully, it will happen sooner than later.

 

I think Tomlin will still coach the steelers for some years but if the steelers want a new head coach next year, maybe trying to trade Tomlin is a possibility, much like the Saints did with Sean Payton

 

I am back to not liking Tomlin as a coach very much. He has me going back and fourth for years about whether or not I think he is good for the organization. I am totally living in my fears on this one. The fear of never winning another playoff game before I leave this earth. I am 60 years young and don't know how much more time I have. At this juncture I honestly would take new coaching with the understanding we could do worse for a few years. Doing worse to me for hopefully the greater good seems prudent at this point. I honestly struggle listening to him anymore. His generalizations and platitudes have exhausted me and I know I speak for others. His reluctance and stubborness to keep the standard the substandard just does not sit well with me anymore. The latest if the media is right is Dan Moore not being replaced with an obvious upgrade in Broderick. There are many reasons but this one is at the top of my list presently. There are tons more

 

The Texans did more than just play more physical. I'm not sure how you don't see that. Offensively, they used the aggressiveness of Watt and Highsmith against them. They outflanked the defense on outside runs and used a variety of short passes and screens to catch the defense out of position. The Steelers got back in the game when they made adjustments, but that took way too long to happen. The Steelers were thoroughly outcoached in that game, which supports your larger point, but you didn't give near enough credit to the Texans.

 

They just missed the playoffs last year and they went into the bye in first place in the division. They are a flawed team that could lose to just about anybody due to the offensive issues, but there are plenty of teams in worse shape.

 

I agree there are plenty of teams in worse shape, but honestly I am just as tired of the 1st place declarations as I am of no losing seasons banter. the % of teams going 0-2 and getting into the playoffs is low, 0-3 it's even worse, but Cincy with all their issues looks like a better bet to get there than the Steelers. I really want to be positive, but we have hardly showed up even in the games we have won. This Steeler team may indeed make the playoffs, even surprise and win deep, but averaging 13 pts a game is likely not going to get you there, but it might get us another non-losing season, that's something to cheer for.

 

Very true my hyperbole over what they did glosses over that they prepared and attacked the Steelers. It's something I wish Tomlin and his staff would do.

 

Yep and this year is not some outlier because it's happened time and time again. A few years ago the traveled to San Diego to play the Chargers who had injuries on the OL and started two players at OT that had been signed that week and Tomlin said he didn't care it wouldn't change what they do. It's the same mantra as when they faced a dackup QB that they make look like an all pro.

 

Remember We Are Marshall, when McConaughey's Lengyel was fixated on the Power I? Then he realized he didn't have the players for it and threw the playbook in the trash can, and came up with the idea to adopt the Veer. Then they head over to rival WVU to watch film on it.

If Tomlin was in that role that playbook goes nowhere near the trash can and we hear about proper execution for the next ten years. He sure as hell doesn't look to see what another team is having success with.

This has been one of my frustrations with Tomlin. He seems to have a set of blinders on with respect to a particular concept and fixates on its execution. It's difficult to ever achieve 100% execution out of every player on every play, but even if you get could, it may not be the right approach for your opponent. I'm not suggesting they create an entirely different offense for each game, but you have to at least look at what the other team runs, how it affects you, and what you can do to take advantage of it.

I just don't see that in Tomlin's prep work.

 

So who's does work???
Let's just realistically look at the last 5 years of SB winners. We Have KC, NE, and Two teams that sold their souls for a chance.....also two of those teams Had Mahomes, and Brady.....which amounts to 4 of those wins out of five....So....could a highly talented Qb have anything to do with it???

 

Any QB that can deliver the football as quickly as CJ Stroud for Houston did will beat this defense.

 

What about playoffs win....I mean in the last 5 years,21 teams won at least one playoff game.The steelers are not on this list......I don't ask for the super bowl since this is so hard to win since this is only 1 team per year who won the super bowl but god,if you want to be in the hunt,we need some playoffs success and 21 teams have done what the steelers did not since 2018 and this is a playoff win

I guess you're going to want a fight now with me, but I'm not interested in that since it's obvious that the Steelers way, which has been great for so long is no longer good for us and the Steelers need to adjust to that or our problems will continue.There's no debate about that

 

Difference is you’re talking only about Super Bowl championships. While that is always the goal I’m simply talking about A Playoff Win in General! That doesn’t take a HOF QB.

It’s fine to be a diehard fan and try to be positive but if you don’t see this organization as one that has really lost it IDK what to say.

 

It's because as I've explained on here many times....although You may not have seen it.
Now remember this how I Myself feel.....this doesn't represent anyone else. As long as We make it to the playoffs I'm happy....once there it's SB, or bust. Not one playoff win.....not two playoff wins. In this order I(just Myself remember) look at it as.....
1. Make the Playoffs
2. Go to the SB
3. Win the SB.
Nothing less.
Why do I look at it this way.....let's look at the Bills for example.....they have went to the playoffs many years in a row, and even won some games in the playoffs, but how has that really helped them win a SB???
When We go multiple year without making the playoffs......then....then I will be highly worried, and extremely pissed. 1, or 2 playoff wins get You realistically Nothing more than just making the playoffs.

 

It means you are at least in contention something the Steelers can’t even dream about for the last decade.

How many years you willing to give him without another playoff win? 2 more? 5 more? 10 more?

 

Amen brother, Amen.You are NOT ALONE.

 

Realistically....how are You in more contention if You just win one playoff game a year....than You are if You just make the playoffs??? Making the playoffs automatically make You in contention. Once in the playoffs its....make the SB, or no. Like I said if We go multiple years without making the playoffs.....then Yes I will be highly pissed, but once You actually make the playoffs....You are no different than any team that didn't make the SB.
JMO, and You can think however You want.

 

1.) Making the playoffs means you made one step closer to winning the Super Bowl than not even making it tp the postseason. 2.) Winning in the playoffs means you made it another step closer. We have not won a playoff game in 6 years, meaning we are at least two steps away. The fact that this regime has not even won a single postseason game in 6 years and counting states a very obvious trend that we are currently not on a successful path. Missing the playoffs a few years? Yea, sure, it happens, even with a competent regime. But to not win a single playoff game in SIX YEARS? You are on a failed, losing franchise leading to nothing resembling success.