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Rooney won't rule out tagging Worilds again?????

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by turtle, Jan 21, 2015.

  1. freakfontana

    freakfontana

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    ok 7 games in his career would be worth a 10/11 milion tag ?
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I dont want them to tag him, but I'm wondering if they might be better off if they work out a fair contract.
     
  3. freakfontana

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    ah ok now i get it :thumbs_up:..yes we should wait the free agency and who is available at what price and how much worilds want
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    They don't feel comfortable with Jarvis being the most experienced OLB signed on the roster, I say sign Worilds DC Butler might get more out of him than LeBeau did. Let Worilds rush the passer more often rather than dropping into coverage.
     
  5. freakfontana

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    yes but the question is always the same ..at what price . ?
     
  6. defva

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    Another big mistake
     
  7. D0bre Shunka

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    Rooney is just keeping all options open and unwilling to "rule out" anything he can legally use to administer. That's the way to go from a leadership stand point, yes?

    They'll try to resign him for a decent price over a few years.
    IMHO
     
  8. contract

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    Beachum just gave up as many sacks as Starks did in his last 2 seasons combined. Hopefully he's as delusional as his supporters so he'll hold out for top LT money. That's the only way we'll get rid of him.
     
  9. mac daddyo

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    by then starks had been starting in the NFL for many years. plus we threw the ball more this year. that's just sacks, beachum can do things in the run game that starks never could. 32 teams also thought starks wasn't that good even as a backup the following year. says something contract. :cool:
     
  10. contract

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    We threw the ball more, but Ben is also getting rid of the ball much faster than he used to.
     
  11. mac daddyo

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    sometimes.:cool:
     
  12. steelersrule6

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    Maybe 7-8 million on a 3-4 year deal. You fans are dreaming if you think the Steelers are going to pay Justin Houston free agent money, he might be asking for more than 12 million a year. They have to give Ben a big signing bonus when he re-signs, so I don't see them signing no big name free agent who will command a big signing bonus also.
     
  13. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    You fans? Who are you? :lolol:

    I don't think Houston is going anywhere. There is a very valid argument for paying a proven, productive pass rusher the kind of money it would cost to tag Worilds, though.

    I wouldn't expect Ben's cap number to change too much.
     
  14. freakfontana

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    i wouldn't give more than 5 milion to worilds .. i know he will find more on the market but to me is not worth more than that
     
  15. blountforcetrauma

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    Yeah if we had the money to spend I would absolutely be in favor of getting an elite pass rusher as it would be a DRASTIC help to this defense. However, I'm not thinking we're gonna have the money to do it. Houston is a guy I wouldn't mind having though. I'm just gonna keep dreaming about my hero Devon McCourty. LOL.
     
  16. mac daddyo

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    I just can't see spending near 10 mil like we did on worilds last year for mediocre play. run and pass defense from him was as average as it comes. isn't the goal to get better? why even pay 5-6 mil. if our goal isn't going to be met? 7.5 sacks isn't worth that type of money, heck we got that from heyward last year for a fraction of the cost. did worilds really do anything in pass defense either? not that I remember. use that money elsewhere. just because he knows DL's system doesn't cut it. we will have a new system in place, at least hopefully a different running of that system so why not start fresh and save the money for getting better possibly. that is the goal I hope.:cool:
     
  17. Wardismvp

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    What is fair market price for this type of LB?
    Then lets add incentives? These guys want all this money, well lets see what you got? Sacks 15 tackles 80, fumble recovery's, 2 forced fumble's 2 int's. You get my drift?
     
  18. freakfontana

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    :this!:
     
  19. blountforcetrauma

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    If a guy is gonna get big money I feel like he should have a lot of stuff that sticks in the memories of fans. Big splash plays and int's and fumbles and sacks and things like that. Even if Worilds is just "solid" that doesn't make him worth what he is gonna be asking for. When Harrison and Woodley got paid they were both making a true impact and wreaking havoc on an offense. Even Flacco said at the first of the year how our defense just wasn't the same without Harrison and Woodley coming at you. Worilds doesn't bring a fear factor to the table and I say that he's totally expendable.
     
  20. Steel_Elvis

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    I agree. Unless Butler is 100% sure that he still has growth potential, and can become a truly dominant OLB, then I really don't want him as a starter - even if it's at a bargain price. We only have 2 starting OLBs, and IMO the play of our style of defense hinges on those 2 guys probably more than any other position - especially vs. the pass. We need to be better at that spot. I hope that JJ is capable of being a solid starter. We haven't seen enough to fully judge him yet. I have seen enough of Worilds over 5 years to see him as only an "OK" starting OLB. We need better than OK.
     
  21. steelersrule6

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    I'm a fan but I'm not thinking the Steelers are going to out and make a splash in free agency and sign a player like Houston. Houston will cost a lot more than signing or tagging Worilds, the Steelers have zero chance of getting him. Even if Ben's cap number doesn't change much, I think they will try to extend Heyward.
     
  22. Steel_Elvis

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    Even if the Steelers would make a move like that, I can't imagine a scenario where Houston gets out of KC. If they don't work out a deal, I feel pretty certain they'll franchise him - even if it means that they have to make a cap cut or two elsewhere.
     
  23. turtle

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    Pittsburgh Steelers OLB Jason Worilds received $9.754 million dollars in 2014 for 7.5 sacks. Not much production for a lot of money being sent to a pass rusher. Worilds was paid handsomely because the Steelers organization decided to use the transition tag on Worilds which prevented him from testing the free agency waters last offseason.After Worilds' lukewarm season, the Steelers seem prepared to allow Worilds to set his own market value by allowing him to test the free agent waters heading into 2015.
    "He [Worilds] understands that if he doesn't get tagged, which we could still do, he will explore the market and see what is out there," GM Kevin Colbert said Wednesday at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis per Scott Brown of ESPN.com. "We will stay in communication. Maybe he comes back. Maybe he moves on. But he's been a good player for us and we would love to have him back if it all fits."
    If the Steelers choose to use the transition tag on Worilds for a second year, it would cost the team roughly $11.7 million dollars and a hefty salary cap hit the team can hardly afford. What this equates to is the simple fact that if Worilds is going to remain a part of the Pittsburgh Steelers it would be with a long-term contract and not by using another transition tag.
    Worilds' situation makes for difficult decisions for the Steelers as they look at their OLB depth chart heading into 2015 with only one player under contract with NFL experience, and that is Jarvis Jones. James Harrison could be an option for the team, and Arthur Moats could be another player who could be brought back to help fill the gaping hole the team is experiencing currently at the OLB position.
    Either way you look at it, it seems as though the Steelers have come to grips with the thought of Worilds testing free agency, and possibly not returning in 2015.

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...-preparing-to-let-olb-jason-worilds-test-free

    Good job KC. Let him test the FA waters. The team can't afford that tag hit financially.
     
  24. lloyddestroy

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    Tagging him would be beyond retarded. If they are this stupid, our future is not bright.
     
  25. lloyddestroy

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    Totally agree. If our 3-4 only has "OK" OLBs, then we have no shot at a ring. None.
     

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