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Realistic Passing Stats.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Wardismvp, Jun 27, 2022.

  1. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Ok everybody let's hear your target numbers for our passing attack.

    17 games x 40 passes a game = 680 attempts

    Completion percentage for our QB/S. 680 Attempts x 63% = 428 completions.

    Catches per receiver.

    Dionte Johnson 90
    Najee Harris 60
    Pat Friermuth 65
    Goerge Pickens 60
    Chase Claypool 70
    Calvin Austin 40
    All other receivers 43

    What do your stats look like? My personal preference would be to reduce passing attempts in lieu of running the ball, would all depend on how improved our OL would be????
     
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  2. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    I can see it now. The Steelers go back to a 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense and wardismvp will complain about not passing the ball.
     
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  3. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    May I remind you of #7 stats over his career much larger winning percentage when he threw less than 37 times per game. Plus just as Bettis during his prime he gave us a much better chance to win Najee could give us a real chance of controlling TOP crucial against the high powered offenses we will face.
     
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  4. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    no need to remind me of #7. However, apparently you need to be reminded that #7 is no longer playing in the nfl. Being that he’s no longer playing his performance or lack there of has no bearing on the Steelers.
     
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  5. Animus

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    I'm not sure on specific numbers.

    Receptions

    1 DJ
    2 Muth
    3 Pickens
    4 Claypool
    5 Field

    Yards
    1 Pickens
    2 Claypool
    3 DJ
    4 Muth
    5 Field

    TDs
    1 Muth
    2 Pickens
    3 DJ
    4 Claypool
    5 Field

    I don't think any receiver will get above 85 reception and none above 1k Yards.
     
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  6. strummerfan

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    Additionally how many of those losses were directly attributed to #7 or something that had nothing to with passing the ball whatsoever? For example the Cleveland playoff game where Ben spotted them 28 points in the first quarter. Was it the game against the chargers where we came from way behind only to give up the lead in two plays on defense? Both games we threw more than 37 times and lost both, but the number of attempts had nothing to do with the loss.
     
  7. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

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    WR

    DJ 105 Rec 1100 yds 5 TDs
    Claypool 68 Rec 800 yds 8 TDs
    Pickens 55 Rec 650 yds 8 TDs
    Freiermuth 60 550 yds 7 TDs
    Austin 45 Rec 450 yds 1 TD
    Najee 40 Rec 450 yds 2 TDs

    QB

    Trubisky 2300 yards 16 TDs 8 INTs 63 Comp % 9 GS
    Pickett 1700 yards 15 TDs 4 INTs 67 Comp % 8 GS

    Mitch Trubisky has not started 16 games in any season, let alone 17. I believe at some point Trubisky will have an injury, and that is when Pickett will get his shot. I think Kenny will play well enough to keep the job even once Trubisky is healthy.

    RB

    Najee

    300 ATT 1400 YDs 10 TDs
     
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  8. Karl

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    lol.... just taking a lighter side of this:
    I guess it depends on what the defense decides to give us.
    If they are top 5, then not much
    If they are bottom 5, then a lot.

    Realistically, I prefer a pretty decently balanced attack, but the depends on the weakness of the opposing team.
    If they can't stop the run, then I will run them stupid.
    If they can't stop the pass, then I throw them stupid.
    If they play the run first, then I pass when I show run.
    If they play pass fist, then I run to set up the pass.

    Humor aside...
    Pittsburgh is in transition. A new guy is behind center, the odds would be that it is Mitch.
    I would think by design, they will lean more on the ground game in the early going.
    So, I don't expect any eye-popping numbers.
    To be honest, I am more expecting a ~.500 season as they go through this transition and find a new identity.
     
  9. AFan

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    If your numbers turn out, the Steelers will likely be on of the pass-happiest teams in the league. 428 on 680 attempts is even more than the Steelers did last year (425/664).
    On Tom Brady thru more than 680 times last year, and only Brady, Herbert, Carr and Mahomes had more completions.

    I guess I'd think they wouldn't got to pass as often without Ben, and might try to run a bit more. And if they don't get behind by 10 or 20 pts like they did are a number of games last yr, they would be throwing every down in the 2nd half.
     
  10. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    What do your stats look Like Buffalo Bill?
     
  11. Rush2seven

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    Claypool 124 - 1450 yards, 17 TDs
    DJ - 82 - 850 yards, 7 TDs
    Muuuuuuth - 75 - 624, 9 TDs
    Najee 74 - 521, 6 TDs
    Pickens - 43 - 359, 4 TDs
    Rest of team - 25, 37 yard, 1 TD
    Washington 14 - 156 yards, 2 TDs*

    *not for the Steelers
     
  12. MeanJoeBlue

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    Out of curiosity, where do you get that stat?
    (I don't mean someone just saying it, but a spreadsheet or a data set where we could look over the numbers.)

    Ben was 3-0 in regular season games where he passed over 500 yards.
    Two of them were 1 point games, so those weren't garbage yards.
    (The other game, against the Colts, was only an 8 point lead going into the 4th quarter.)
    The attempts in those games was 46, 49, and 66.
     
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  13. MeanJoeBlue

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    Last year, the Steelers had the 4th most passing attempts (608), and the 5th fewest rushing attempts (411).
    As AFan pointed out, only TB (Tom Brady for Tampa Bay) had more than 675 passing attempts.

    If all goes well, the team will rely on the defense more, the offense will improve on yards/attempt, and they will be letting the clock run more late in the game while holding onto a lead. (IF all goes well...)
    That means fewer attempts of any kind, and the rushing attempts should go up.
    Last year, they had 64% pass completion.
    I think that number actually goes up. (65% is still below league average.)

    So lets say 17 games x 36 passes/game = 612 attempts,
    x 65.3% = 400 completions
    That would put them 9th most for attempts and 12th in completions, similar to Minnesota with Cousins last year (604, 398).
     
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  14. strummerfan

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    He likes to throw that out there a couple times a year. It sounds great and all, but statistics without reference aren’t worth a hill of beans. As for where he got the numbers that is anyone’s guess. I looked once and found a roughly 10 year old article. At face value it would appear to support his claim, but they actually broke down the games in question and the how the losses occurred. Suddenly it no longer supported his claims
     
  15. Wardismvp

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    Throw your guess out there, sureley you have some thoughts?his is all just for fun throw out your numbers, nobody is going to hold you to them. My God man you people all you want to do is fight. This is just for conversation, nothing more nothing less.
     
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  16. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Not at this point. We don’t even know who will be starting at qb. Are there any serious injuries during training camp/pre season? What about our new offensive line?
     
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  17. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. There are no right or wrong answers. It's just guessing stats. No different than predicting what the Steelers record will be every year.
     
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  18. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    No one said alterations can't be made as new information is available.
     
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  19. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    It is for fun.
     
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  20. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Can we come in

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    For what it’s worth he was 27-35-1 when throwing more than 40:

    https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/be...mes-with-more-than-40-passing-attempts-career
     
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  21. DJ18Baller

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    We will not come close to 680 pass attempts. Have any of you seen Mitch Trubisky play QB?? Steelers better run the ball every 1st and 2nd down.

    40 attempts a game with Mitch would get us 1-16. He’s 25 attempts a game at the most and you close your eyes and pray.
     
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  22. steelersrule6

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    I think 40 attempts a game with these QBs wouldn't be ideal, it should be about 30 attempts a game.
     
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  23. AFan

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    Last yr every team in the league thru at least 29+ passes per game. Here’s guessing the 2022 Steelers do to.
     
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  24. Wardismvp

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  25. Wardismvp

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    These are guesses nothing more nothing less. It is for fun.
     

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