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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Chinchilla, Nov 3, 2021.

  1. Chinchilla

    Chinchilla Well-Known Member

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    Correct me if I am wrong but couldn't PHIII drop kick the ball for an extra point?
    Crap...even Big Ben could have tried that.
    Maybe its no longer allowed.
     
  2. Steelrules

    Steelrules Well-Known Member

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    The ball would need to bounce off the ground before it can be kicked. Not your run of the mill punt and extremely unpredictable
     
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  3. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    Doug Flutie did it in 2006. And he would have had to practice that for weeks before Belicheck let him try. It was the final game of the season, and the Patriots had already clinched home field advantage.

    Last one before that was 1941. Before 1936 the ball more resembled a rugby ball, and the drop kick was more common. But they changed the shape to be more easily thrown, and it kind of died from there.

    That being said....
    I was the kicker as a senior in high school (also defensive tackle and offensive guard- not one of your larger schools). During practice, off a bad snap, picked the ball up, took one step to my right, and drop kicked it through soccer style. My coaches nearly crapped their pants.
     
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  4. mytake

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    Does the ball have to be snapped from the 3 yard line for a dropkick or the thirteen?
     
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  5. S.T.D

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    When You named off all the positions You played...You didn't have 2 tell us it wasn't a large school. LoL :thumbs_up:
     
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  6. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    I believe you can still do it, but you have to attempt it from the 15 yard line, but then for it to have any success you would have to line up about 8-10 yards behind the longer snapper.

    It's a one point play, so it must be from the 15, not the 2 yard line.

    So basically your asking 35-37 yard drop kick punt, and who actually practices this???

    LOL answer would be nobody....

    Only reason Flutie did it was because it was a meaningless regular season finale for Patriots in 2006 and back then it was like 25 yards at most.
     
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  7. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    The HS team I played on in the early 1970's had 18 total players. We had 4 guys hurt against Brockway and only dressed 14 for the game. Needless to say we lost something like 36-0.
     
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  8. Lizard72

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    Sounds like the Military teams in Japan. They have to travel regularly and have limited seats on busses. This year my Navy Base team had a game against one of the Air Force bases and had to split seats on the bus with the Volleyball team. I think they only took 16-18 and had to play JV and Varsity. They beat the Varsity team 56-0. Talked to the kids and they said they were trying to end it by halftime because they wanted to eat at a restaurant and not at a rest stop or 7-11 on the way home!
     
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  9. strummerfan

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    you’re close. The ball can be kicked after it hits the ground or just as it hits the ground.
     
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  10. zcoop

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    Air Force rules! Fly Guy here.
     
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  11. S.T.D

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    LoL. See ...Well that's not fair. I played in a pretty big school...So none of that , but My Brother played on a small school, and I had friends play on schools so small they couldn't even have a scrimmage game, or a real practice. LoL
     
  12. Hanratty#5

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    At practice when the Offense was going against the Defense, we had the assistant coaches play in the secondary. They would run up and tag you to stop the play.
     
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  13. steelersrock151

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    Watch rugby, where the drop kick is regularly used. Those guys can make it from 50 or more. I know it's a different shaped ball, but many of them wouldn't have trouble with it.
     
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  14. S.T.D

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    LoL. :roflmao:
     
  15. MeanJoeBlue

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    It isn't that they can make it, but what is their success rate?

    Over the long haul, making a drop kick extra point 80% of the time is worth as much as a 40% success rate on two-point conversions. (The statistics are low, but historically the team averages near a coin flip on two-point plays. The drop kick would need to be almost as good as a regular extra point kick.)
     
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  16. steelersrock151

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    Just a point- the longest drop kick in rugby history is 85 yards. Kind of puts Justine what's his name to shame.
     
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  17. S.T.D

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    I never played Rugby, but isn't the ball different, and also different air pressure ????
     
  18. steelersrock151

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    its rounder and softer. Makes it easier to kick, but it has a lot more air resistance.
     
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  19. S.T.D

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    OK...thanks...I really know nothing about it . I Seen one game/match/whatever they call it on TV once.
     
  20. steelersrock151

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    Played once or twice in college. Kids played on a high school team. Younger one made it to nationals. Got to watch a lot of it.
     
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  21. S.T.D

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    That's Cool :thumbs_up:
     
  22. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Once again they do not practice it... its American Football not Rugby......
     
  23. Lizard72

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    You drop it "not" on it's point, the shape of the rugby ball is way better for doing it consistently (there's enough curve help you do that). Probably the reason everyone uses a hold, because you put the ball exactly where the kicker needs it.

    For the conversions they do they line up @ 45° to the posts. I'm guessing that if you don't practice this regularly, then it's just as difficult as kicking it from a hold.

    Also, the field is not as chewed up as an American football field will get between the hash marks.
     
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