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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by francobettis, Apr 17, 2023.

  1. francobettis

    francobettis Well-Known Member

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    Just heard Jalen Hurts signed a 5yr $255mil contract extension. that is about $51mil/yr.
    If Kenny Pickett has success here in Pittsburgh and by the time his rookie contract is about to expire, he'll be probably be worth $60mil/yr? That is going to take up 1/4 of the salary cap. Probably need the salary cap to be above $300mil to sign Kenny. Unbelievable.
     
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  2. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Some worry way to much on cap space. Specially years down the road. back loading is easy.

    And while I really like Kenny. I don't see him being like hurts. I think he's going to stay to being that matt Ryan type with getting yards to move the ball, specially under Canada. While having a little bit of legs and not afraid to take it to the house himself.
     
  3. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Billionaire Owners, Millionaire players, and all powered by the thousandaire fans that keep the big machine turning.....
     
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  4. Steelrules

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    What’s going to make or break the Hurts deal is if the Eagles can afford to keep the supporting pieces. Already, they’ve lost some key pieces and are not getting younger
     
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  5. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Just goes to show you how important the draft is. Can't miss on those first two picks
    Or you are in trouble Hence Devin Bush!
     
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  6. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    This...The QB market is seemingly reset every time a new guy steps up, the total guaranteed money is of course not what the Browns gave, but still a significant chunk. The next 2 will likely be Burrow and Herbert, the key to staying competitive is drafting right and knowing when to let go of players who might command big bucks, and confident enough to let them walk. KC has done well, but none of these guys have shown they are Mahomes either. The interesting thing to watch will be if/when they feel they want to re-sign KP (assuming he develops). Buffalo jumped early on Allen, looked staggering at the time, but as the market jumps his actually looks manageable.
     
  7. SteelersFan369

    SteelersFan369 Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to hear anymore whining about CEO pay
     
  8. bradshaw12

    bradshaw12 Well-Known Member

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    What these guys are making is truly sickening to me, but as long as the Steelers exist I will be watching the NFL. I stopped watching baseball after Bonds left and I knew that the Pirates would not be able to compete because of the rapidly inflating salaries. The NBA is terrible also, but I do watch a couple of players more so than teams. If I thought it would matter I would stop watching altogether.
     
  9. bradshaw12

    bradshaw12 Well-Known Member

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    KC has done well, but none of these guys have shown they are Mahomes either.[/QUOTE]

    Getting off of the subject I know, but please tell me one thing you have seen mahomes do on a football field, that these other qb's aren't able to do? And I mean simply playing the position, not team achievements. I am admittedly a certified mahomes hater.
     
  10. oldschool

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    It’s his abilities combined with his decision making. I’m sure game study and preparedness could also factor in at a very high level too.
     
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  11. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    It’s his abilities combined with his decision making. I’m sure game study and preparedness could also factor in at a very high level too.[/QUOTE]
    He can throw the ball at any arm angle. He also has a gun for an arm. CAN MAKE
    ALL OF THE THROWS.
     
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  12. oldschool

    oldschool Well-Known Member

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    He can throw the ball at any arm angle. He also has a gun for an arm. CAN MAKE
    ALL OF THE THROWS.[/QUOTE]


    Somehow the Quoting and stuff got all fouled up here. I agree that Mahommes is awesome. I’m taking up for the guy.
     
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  13. bradshaw12

    bradshaw12 Well-Known Member

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    He can throw the ball at any arm angle. He also has a gun for an arm. CAN MAKE
    ALL OF THE THROWS.[/QUOTE]
    The arm angle thing is irrelevant. A completed pass is a completed pass. That doesn't make him better than the others mentioned. I don't think anyone would say being able to throw a pass sidearm is a requirement for being a great qb. Arm strength, irrelevant. That doesn't make him better than the others mentioned. As with the arm angle thing, I would say that no one would argue that a cannon of an arm is a requirement for being a great qb.
     
  14. S.T.D

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    Getting off of the subject I know, but please tell me one thing you have seen mahomes do on a football field, that these other qb's aren't able to do? And I mean simply playing the position, not team achievements. I am admittedly a certified mahomes hater.[/QUOTE]

    I could name a bunch, but let's just go with doing everything He did in end of AFC Championship game ,and SB game with the same type of injury that to Lamar Jackson out for the end of the season.
     
  15. Steelrules

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if some teams revert to a cycle of being competitive, lose franchise players, reload and being competitive again
     
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  16. Vox Ferrum

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    Getting off of the subject I know, but please tell me one thing you have seen mahomes do on a football field, that these other qb's aren't able to do? And I mean simply playing the position, not team achievements. I am admittedly a certified mahomes hater.[/QUOTE]
    Well, he was the starting QB for 5 years, each of those years KC went to the conference title game, 3x to the SB, 2 time winner. He has in those 5 years more playoff wins than KC previously had in their entire existence. Maybe the other guys are able to do it as well or better, but when and where it counts in the last 5 years no one can say they were better.
     
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  17. Formerscribe

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    The arm angle thing is irrelevant. A completed pass is a completed pass. That doesn't make him better than the others mentioned. I don't think anyone would say being able to throw a pass sidearm is a requirement for being a great qb. Arm strength, irrelevant. That doesn't make him better than the others mentioned. As with the arm angle thing, I would say that no one would argue that a cannon of an arm is a requirement for being a great qb.[/QUOTE]

    The arm angles aren't irrelevant because they are part of his ability to improvise, which is better than anyone else in the NFL right now. He can carve up a defense from the pocket, but he can also be lethal when things break down. He does it a lot more consistently than Josh Allen. Also, the team's success is relevant because he has made so many big throws in the most important moments.

    Edit: Seriously, what is with the quote function on this thread? I just put oldschool's response to bradshaw 12 in italics. The part after that is my post.
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    Well, he was the starting QB for 5 years, each of those years KC went to the conference title game, 3x to the SB, 2 time winner. He has in those 5 years more playoff wins than KC previously had in their entire existence. Maybe the other guys are able to do it as well or better, but when and where it counts in the last 5 years no one can say they were better.[/QUOTE]

    This is something I preach a billion times.
    It's not what You do, or can do.....it's when You do it.
    What the hell is wrong with the quoting stuff in this thread???
     
  19. bradshaw12

    bradshaw12 Well-Known Member

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    I could name a bunch, but let's just go with doing everything He did in end of AFC Championship game ,and SB game with the same type of injury that to Lamar Jackson out for the end of the season.[/QUOTE]
    Yea, I know, it takes a lot of talent to throw a pass to a receiver who has no one within 10 yards of them. He should kiss Reid's substantial buttocks every chance he gets. As for the "injury", you are making assumptions as to how bad it was, but also, I believe that most if not all starting qb's in the league would do all they could to play.
     
  20. oldschool

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    The arm angle thing is irrelevant. A completed pass is a completed pass. That doesn't make him better than the others mentioned. I don't think anyone would say being able to throw a pass sidearm is a requirement for being a great qb. Arm strength, irrelevant. That doesn't make him better than the others mentioned. As with the arm angle thing, I would say that no one would argue that a cannon of an arm is a requirement for being a great qb.[/QUOTE]




    The way you a framing it is that since he throws and runs just as other QBs do then he doesn’t do anything special.

    Doesn’t seem like you are genuine e with your inquiry and will likely respond with obtuse answers and requests in an effort to just sandbag responses.

    He does all the things other QBs do, but he does them better.
     
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  21. nor

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    there's going to have to be a new rule limiting QB salaries. Much like Jamarcus russell flop changed rookie contracts.
     
  22. Brice

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    Is this what Burrow is going to want this year?

    Forget Lamar, the first QB I thought of was Burrow. I know Burrow says he wants a new contract this year, and does not want to wait and do the 5th year option thing next year. Will he be wanting his $50 million per year deal this year?
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    I doubt it, but the union probably should back something like this. The quarterbacks sucking up all the money are a very small percentage of their membership. That would be a way to look out for everybody else.
     
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  24. jeh1856

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    Agreed

    I don’t see it going to the extent like a steelworker union where all of your quarterbacks get the exact same salary

    I realize sports are unique talent wise

    But 3 players making 17 rather than 1 making 51 is better for the sport

    Both players and the union should both be on board

    Guaranteed money would need to be reviewed as well

    I can’t wait to hear the kiddieanalyst’s take on this
     
  25. oldschool

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    Yeah, a top 1% of players making the vast majority of the wealth is very bad for the league and it’s creating a volatile shuffling of how teams have to shift key players in and out to make an unstable framework for a team to build around.

    Nobodies house will ever get built to completion and always under construction by adding and selling different elements creating a mish mosh of architectural elements that won’t mix well or last long.
     

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