Play Russell W. on Sunday, if healthy

Fields may be our future - 2025 and beyond. I don't know.

Tomlin offenses suck, year after year. I loathed hearing the announcers say that Tomlin and Smith are on the same page on offense. that means: "We will plan (game-plan, practice, attempt) to score 13 - 17 points and PRAY TO GOD that our defense can force 3 turnovers , block a FG or two and Katie bar the door at the goal line.

Tomlin remains the ONE CONSTANT on this team and with our offense.

3 points AGAIN in the first half. pure suck! another one of the worst offenses in league, after 5 games. YES, we MISS WARREN!

D did it's job early, got them the TO's and at one point (inc. the blocked FG), I heard we were 1 of 9 on third down, and this was with a decimated Dallas defense

Tomlin sucks - I really don't know what more Rooney wants to see. I had seen enough years ago. MANY things I like about him but RINGS are what I want. He plays and coaches like it is 2003.

this is your 2024 Pittsburgh Steelers. Good enough maybe to win 8 or 9, but mediocre again.

Play Russ. Let's see if he can find these WR's. Fields has one pass - a fastball. No touch, just darts. He is young, much to learn. Full rebuild AGAIN on offense next offseason, it appears.


NOW - let the excuses for MikeyT fly!

 

Wilson better feel better get him out there

 

No good excuses for Tomlin from me. His strategy is trash.

And hard not to want to see something else. Lets see what Russ can do. I doubt it will be much with this OL, but can't let him sit and wonder what might have been.

 

This game was weird from the start with the rain delay. The offense was non-existent in the first half. It's become a trend for the Steelers.... no offense until the 2nd half.

Don't even get me started on the defense. Free agent pickups at CB, SS and ILB played very poorly last night. I don't have to list their names. Everyone knows.

 

Fields is not the future. I would let Wilson start.

 

I know Elliott was beaten on both touchdowns, but I have a very hard time blaming him for last night's debacle. On the first one, he slipped on the wet turf. There's not much you can do about that. On the second, he was put in a mismatch on a wide receiver and the quarterback had way too much time to throw. Despite the pick play, he was still in decent position to hit the receiver and grab his arms as the ball got there.

Queen, on the other hand, was terrible. He was always a step slow. He looks like a bust so far. Jackson was horrible. Sure, he caught an interception thrown right to him, but that's about it.

 

Let Russ cook.

 

Russ will be "cooked" if he plays behind this O line.

 

so.....4 TO's, they created. i am including the blocked FG.

they play BEND and NOT BREAK. that TOO is TOMLIN.

Blitzburgh is DEAD. Burn the tee shirts, we can only hold it in our MEMORIES. the D is being wasted.

Tomlin (whom in many respects I like) IS the problem on both sides of the ball.

 

Maybe. He can throw downfield, can throw a slant, can read quicker and react.

But yes - the O is in SERIOUS trouble.

I thought maybe we would move from ~27th in the league to around 20. that is not going to happen.

 

No QB is saving this offense. It's trash.

 

I would start Wilson but the results will not be much different. The problems on this team are much bigger than who is going to play QB.

 

No QB would thrive in this offense, even Mahomes would struggle. We probably have the worst receiving core in the league. Our #1, Pickens, is still pretty raw and an absolute headcase. After him, there is literally nobody worth a damn. Look at the game tape. Nobody gets open. The only guy who can make difficult catches is Pickens, and you never know where his head is going to be from one play to the next. We have underutilized tight ends, but freiermuth isnt elite by any stretch.

And then of course our oline is shaky. It seems like half the time there's a defender running straight through chasing Fields as soon as he catches the shotgun snap.

 

So Russie is going to magically get people open is he?

Fields is holding the ball because guys can't get open, he's trying to make things happen, this offense will look exactly the same with Wilson at QB. You know why? becasuse this is what it's looked like for freaking years...

 

kyle allen looked pretty good as i said this preseason.

 

There are times Fields is holding it because they aren't open. There are other times he is just missing his opportunities by either not seeing them quickly enough or simply making poor throws. Two of the drops, the deep ball to Heyward and the third-down pass to Pickens in the third quarter, were throws that were off the mark. Maybe they come up with those balls if he makes better throws.

 

you can't over throw them when they are open. reading the defense is not a fields strength. never was. still isn't.

 

that is on Tomlin (#1) above and Smith.

the PLAN was to go ALL IN on defense. and for 4 or 5 weeks, they have DONE THEIR JOB. Offense sucked last night.

Yes, OLINE is beat up but we can 'play' with those 5 last night. no creativity with this offense. Has Tomlin's conservative fingerprints all over it. Goal for first half, week in and week out: SCORE 3.

miss Warren tremendously

 

We'll see what strengths RW has in this offense, with one headcase WR and little else.

 

I'm one of the biggest Pro-Russell Wilson advocates on this board and even I see that he won't be much, if any improvement over Fields. The O line and WR corps is subpar at this point. I don't see much room for improvement.

The schedule looks even more brutal now.... with Giants and Commanders winning. Commanders will win by 3 scores with their offense and Steelers won't be able to move the ball on their D. Jets and Raiders games will be a struggle to win at this point.

 

yes - it is time. Save the add'l draft picks for Fields, not worth it for 2024. Going nowhere, again.

get ready for 2025.....

 

I’d start Wilson but I don’t expect the results to be markedly better. The O has multiple issues that a QB change won’t magically fix.

1. The Oline sucks. Partly due to injury, partly due to lack of experience, but they’re overall just plain bad at both run blocking and pass blocking.

2. Najee sucks as a feature back. The team desperately needs a healthy Warren back to keep teams honest. Najee can only run up the middle and opponents know this now.

3. The WRs are collectively one of the worst groups in the whole league. Pickens has his good days and bad days. I’m not sure he’s a true number 1 but he’s far and away the best WR on the team. After that it’s Austin (who’s more suited to special teams and being a WR4), Jefferson and Miller (two castoffs no one else really wanted).

4. Overall lack of experience. When Daniels went down against Indy, the entire starting offense was playing on their rookie contracts. Several are in the final year of those deals but that’s still a brutal lack of experience on the offensive side of the ball.

The bottom line is this team is built to win on D. They just haven’t invested enough in the O. They’ve changed that a bit in the last couple of drafts but those investments will take time to pay off. In the meantime the O will continue to struggle because it has no difference makers.

 

I agree he's missed throws, do you think RW isn't going to miss throws as well? You can't live expecting your QB is going to play perfectly every week to carry a terrible offense. Not gonna happen, this is 34 year old RW not RW from a decade ago.

It's a mess becuase for years we haven't had the QB and probably still don't, but the offense has been terrible for years, and still is, and Tomlin's playing offense like it's 1972.