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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by bettissb40, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. bettissb40

    bettissb40 Well-Known Member

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    Stupid play calling not going for the FG. :roflmao: :roflmao:
     
  2. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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  3. edog55

    edog55 Well-Known Member

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    No, don't relax. As my wife said to me while watching Mendenhall get his btt kicked trying to score from three yards out, 4 times:

    She said, thats totally unexcusable. Don't the Steelers have another runner who is better then that guy? Thats from a woman who doesn't know that much about football.

    As I always say, BA has no imagination, he has no knowledge on how to develop a running game. He is a pass happy OC who doesn't care about the running.

    I remember how in the pre-season all they talked about was how dynamic the offense would be. Well they don't even average 30 points a game with all that passing. It's a darn right ashame that Tomlin lets this stupid stuff go on game after game while the fans suffer through this agonizing and painful struggle from the offense. As you can see, it doesn't work.

    The sooner they get rid of BA the better.
     
  4. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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    well you ar eat the right place......Everyone else wants to get rid of BA here too
     
  5. BLACKnGOLDsince72

    BLACKnGOLDsince72 Well-Known Member

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    BA or coaching in general wasn't the worst of their offensive problems last night. I agree Redman should have been given at least 2 shots on the goal line which is a BA issue and I also think they should have kicked the FG there which falls on Tomlin. However the players themselves did plenty to almost lose that game. You have 2 of your most reliable vets fumble the ball killing 2 potential TD drives. what the hell was that all about ??? Then after our QB comes back hobbled and needing all the support he can get that sorry a*** guard we have with half a brain, that'd be Kemo in case there's any doubt, saw fit to commit his normal run of penalties to help kill several drives that we desperately needed given Ben's condition. Then Brown while playing a great game overall has a key drop that would have been a first down that again we couldn't afford to have happen based on Ben's condition. I'm sorry but blaming BA for everything under the sun like some of you guys do is just too easy. There was plenty of blame to go around last night and most of it fell on the shoulders of the guys on the field.
     
  6. Concussion

    Concussion Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this was a three turnover game. The offense could not sustain drives due to turnovers and penalties.

    The plays at the goal line were limited due to Roethlisberger's ankle. We were playing the Brown's, Batch has to come in and win that game to protect the franchise quarterback from further injury.

    Tomlin's mistake was not sitting Roethlisberger down. We need him in the playoffs.
     
  7. oldschool

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    :banghead: (((Hello!!!))) :wizard: This wasn't the first time BA has misused his players. It's a cumulative frustration. And over many years now.

    Players make some bad plays here or there. Ward rarely makes that kind of thing as does Miller. both have had some recent drops though. Ward when ray ray clocked him so I don't blame him and actually though he maintained possession long enough to get the call. Brown's drop was bad, but he redeemed himself.... That's also something good players do.

    Those examples of yours were costly and except for Brown's drop were because the other guys made some great plays. You have to factor that in. If the defensive coordinator was hiding pages of Ariens playbook during the game, then he gets cut the slack a player gets when someone puts a monster hit on one of our ball carriers.
     
  8. 12to88

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    As much as I dislike Arians, I can't blame his gameplan or playcalling for fumbles and turnovers. That said, is it not his responsibility, under Tomlin's regime, to have the team prepared to RUN his plays efficiently and effectively? Sure, it's Tomlin's responsibility overall, but he delegates this stuff to his coordinators. So the ax really falls on Arians. Over the past 3-4 years, the Steelers have turned the ball over alot in the red zone.

    I don't need to say anything about the four straight running plays. It's all been said already.
     
  9. BLACKnGOLDsince72

    BLACKnGOLDsince72 Well-Known Member

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    Here or there ?? You mean like Ben's turnover performance in the 1st game versus the Ravens ?? I don't say BA is blameless but he's also not the anti-christ many on here make him out to be.
     
  10. edog55

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    We all agree on the Kemo sorry performance. As far as Arians, plenty of blame goes his way because he has no clue. He can't develop a proper running game. He has the O-line using the wrong blocking scheme ( zone blocking), with his pass happy offense. I also blame Tomlin for letting it happen. Not to mention the fact that he does not want to see Redman do well because that would limit his pass happy offense. His presence is a detriment to the team. Get rid of this guy and fine someone who knows how to develop a running game and they will be alright. As we all can see, his pass happy offense does not work. Its going to get Ben killed. He has been sacked more times then any other QB in the league the pass few years. If you can see that then why doesn't he change. Because of Bens style of play, he should limit his passing atempts and run the ball more with Redman. Notice I said with Redman becase Mendenhall is not the one. Bens career will be shorten because of BA. Now deny that!!!
     
  11. BLACKnGOLDsince72

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    Okay I will. If Ben's career is shortened it will be because of Ben and not BA. Did you watch the interview with Ben last night? Ben plays the game HIS WAY. What he does makes him who he is. In the interview he himself said probably half of those sacks are on him because of his style of play. BA isn't going to change that and neither will any other OC brought in to replace BA.
     
  12. troybellringer55

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    If you can't score on 4 plays from the 2 you don't deserve to win. If the Steelers score there, the game was over. I can't blame play calling much, with Ben hurt they had no choice other than to run it. I wish a pitch or run to the outside would have been attempted. But, there was no way in heck the Browns offense was going to drive it 99 yards for a touchdown. If I'm in Tomlin's shoes I would have done the same.
     
  13. troybellringer55

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    If you can't score on 4 plays from the 2 you don't deserve to win. If the Steelers score there, the game was over. I can't blame play calling much, with Ben hurt they had no choice other than to run it. I wish a pitch or run to the outside would have been attempted. But, there was no way in heck the Browns offense was going to drive it 99 yards for a touchdown. If I'm in Tomlin's shoes I would have done the same.
     
  14. spleeny09

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    I love the fact that we ran the ball 4 times in a row. I love the fact that we went for it on 4th down. I agree with those decisions 100%. The problem was the personnel used. Redman should have been the back on all 4 plays from that area of the field and David Johnson should have led him from the I formation. If you want to mix it up at all...then maybe give the ball to the lead blocker (Johnson) on 2nd down instead of Redman. It baffles me that they don't use Redman more. The kid has heart and is very rarely stopped for a loss.
     
  15. SteelerD

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    When is Redman's contract up? Could the lack of opportunities for him be due to the Steelers trying to keep his value lower until they can get his signed long term at a reduced cost? I have a hard time believing that the coaches are not seeing his ability to gain yards after contact. On one of his carries, (I believe in the 3rd qtr) he dragged two LBs an a NT for about 6 yds and a first down. It was incredibly impressive. I was happy to see them line him up as a fullback and give him the ball, but if they only line him up there when they are going to hand him the ball, the league will figure this out in a week or two. It will be telegraphed just like the infamous bubble screen and become ineffective. I could actually hear the Browns defense yelling " Screen, Screen" on one occasion about two seconds before the ball was snapped. Sure enough the play was a bubble screen and the outside linebacker and safety were moving to make the play before the snap and the play went for about a yard.
     
  16. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    We were going to pass on third, but Ben had to change the play. Still, doesn't explain why Redman wasn't on the field, and why there was no creativity with the goal line run scheme.
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