Pickett’s ceiling is not high enough

Being a “25.4” year old QB there is basically no time to learn. You gotta be ready quick. Don’t want 3 mediocre seasons from our QB and then he’s 30. Gotta be ready at 25 to put up numbers or you’re out.

Lawrence has been on the trading block for years reported by media’s and management for over a year. Just google it the reports are there. Do your own research.

 

True, but Dobbs only saw the field in Pitt as a fill in. He has a temporary starting role in AZ, so they have to run plays that fit him. He's not great but serviceable.

 

Easy. He sucks.

 

He'd be 28 not 30 after 3 seaons - math not your strong point is it?

QB's can play until 40, so it matters much less how early they develop.

You made the claim that TL has been on the trading block for years, so unless you can provide me with credible sources, i'm calling BS on that.

 

You couldn't have done it, so what are you complaining about?

if The Steelers had somehow passed on CJ Stroud you'd have something to complain about. But they didn't.

 

He has played well this year his first year with the team

You can’t count the previous years

Some poster here has repeated that often

 

Purdy from a talent perspective isn’t really that good, it’s more the system he’s in much like Jimmy G. But yes, they were lucky. Also unlucky as they traded the farm for Trey Lance.

 

Underthrowing doesn’t necessarily mean his arm is weak, that’s more of an accuracy thing.

 

the dark days of Post Ben

 

I agree. Tom Brady was like hitting the mega billions. 6th round pick. Purdy went even later. Still way early in Purdy's career but him and Brady are two examples that lady luck plays a huge part in draft.

Steelers may have a #1 overall draft pick at QB Sunday. Yippie

 

Agreed. After 8 years He is serviceable. KFP in 8 year maybe serviceable, but one We don't want to wait 8 years, and two We need way better than serviceable.

 

So we should have kept Him 7 years so He could be serviceable. Hell KFP will be serviceable in 7 years....as most NFL Qbs are after that long. Should we wait for serviceable???

 

Again talent is not what wins games. Many many many more talented Qb than Brady, Brees, Ben, Montana, and P. Manning. Many. Mike Vick, Cam Newton, Carson Wentz, J. George, Culpepper, and so on were way way more talented. Strong arms, and fast feet do not make You a great Qb. Quick processing, the ability to see the open man, and the ability to throw it to them correctly are.
Another example...many Qb from Ohio state were more talented than Stroud, but the reason I liked Stroud was was for the other stuff I named....not His arm, or 40 speed.

 

I don't know STD, its like Brady when Bledsoe went down and started to ball out like Ben, you decide you are not going back to the other guy. I think if Purdy stunk it up they keep TL and develop him but if you think you got lightning in a bottle you roll with it. Coaches help develop QB's and fix flaws or teach them how to better read defenses, etc. I know its different but look at Munchak, he came in and immediately our line improved and after he left they started going down the toilet. I don't think its binary its a combination of good coaching and talent that can be molded with a willingness to learn.

 

Come on. TL was on the team before Purdy was even drafted....they thought so little of TL they went and got Sam Darnold this year, and put Him ahead of TL. That tells you all You need to know about what they thought of Trey.

 

I didn't know their history, Sam Darnold ,whoever was there, they wouldn't have just jettisoned them if Purdy didn't begin to ball out. My point, I guess poorly made, is that its coaching and talent that must come together. A poor QB can be improved through coaching depending upon what the deficiency is that is making them poor.

 

But You can't coach what isn't there. Even the greatest OCs in the game admit it. There is a reason 49ers got rid of Jimmy G, and Trey, and there is a reason McVay had enough of his Qb.
Hell S. Peyton left football because of His Qbs

 

No doubt I agree if the deficiency is the ability to think quickly (processing speed) that can be almost impossible to fix unless something is complicating that. Rod Woodson talked about his secondary coach at Pittsburgh getting him to finally understand how there is not as many formation as the thought and once he understood that it clicked and he started to react. I will always thinks its a combination of coaching and the player coming together.

 

I agree. What I'm pointing out is a great coach can only make a great player great, and a bad player ok. Another Example : Ben 5 OCs, and 2 head coaches ...including the OC , and HC we now have, and He has never looked this bad ....even as a old broken down player with a worse OL, and less Targets

 

Yes he had that "it" factor and KP may not have it. Can you teach pocket presence/6th sense or not, probably not you either have it or you don't. Brock Purdy has it as young guy as an example. Stroud looks like he has it, Zach Wilson not so much. The ghost of Dan Marino might have bitten us. Did they evaluate KP enough, because how do you not know he has trouble with zone coverage. How can the team miss that?

 

It gets missed every year, by many many GMs, and coaches. The problem is .....it's hard to judge processing speed in college. Because You are only facing at the very most a game 3 , or 4 Guys that will be good in the NFL. Most of the times less than that.

 

No I don't find it odd that after 7 years in the NFL a NFL Qb becomes a serviceable backup that has won a total of 1 game in His career. Lot of Guys are serviceable backups after 7 years....because they've seen everything. Hell look at Geno Smith ...after 10 years he's a serviceable Qb, but that's all....If You just want a ok serviceable Qb....well by all means go for it.