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Picket’s Deep Ball

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Dusty1, Dec 4, 2022.

  1. Brice

    Brice Well-Known Member

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    Truth be told I am more worried about those low bounce passes he keeps throwing. I just have to wonder if this is because of his small hand size and the ball not coming out right, because he does not have a good grip on it.
     
  2. Formerscribe

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    I'm guessing it is something in his mechanics or he is just trying too hard to put too much on the ball. Mark Malone didn't have small hands, but he threw more than his share of turf burners.
     
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  3. defva

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    He need to get with his receivers and practice. Now, that he's becoming familiar with the system. He can focus on his gelling with his receivers. Learning, each others tendencies and skills. Better ball placement and accuracy
     
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  4. Steel Acorn

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    He seemed a pretty good QB in college with gloves. I’d guess his occasional inaccuracy is due to other reasons than mechanics or hand size. Nerves? Trying too hard? Give him some time. Also, even experienced guys throw some odd balls occasionally. Ben threw plenty high or into the dirt throughout his career.
     
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  5. METALMAN_68

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    Pickett has the misfortune of following a potential Hall Of Famer who threw an excellent deep ball. Not to mention that each and every one of his throws are being dissected in real time on the gameday thread, as if each one just isn't good enough. Most of us on here just want to see improvement from week to week and I think it's safe to say we've seen that. He is taking much better care of the football and taking what the defense gives him. It's abundantly clear that some guys on here will never be satisfied with the improvement Pickett shows, they simply don't like the dude.
     
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  6. truckin9999

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    One thing that no one ever seems to bring up is that the NFL ball is slightly bigger than the college ball
     
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  7. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Could be something going on with his throwing arm. I remember a play a couple games ago he was shaking his hand in pain.

    Also, and just IMO, I think he has below average arm strength. He needs to work on that during the off season. Don`t need a strong arm to compete in the NFL, think about Brady and Montana.
     
  8. S.T.D

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    This....Also I think the whole team presses when they get near the Redzone. The Kid is clearly progressing.
     
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  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Exactly why I hate them.
     
  10. S.T.D

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    Along with Kordell, and also Trubisky had a few in the dirt in His short time here. I don't think either of them had small hands.
     
  11. S.T.D

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    I don't remember Ben throwing into the dirt, but I remember high balls. The guy on this team that loved killing gophers was Kordell....I don't think I remember a Qb on the Steelers throwing more in the dirt. Thats how Hines learned to catch anything thrown His way. LoL
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    This:this!:
     
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  13. jeh1856

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    It comes with age

    Trust me
     
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  14. Fe3CCity

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    The ball to Pickens 2 weeks ago was 45 yards in the air (iirc). I believe I'm remembering right as I remember looking as the replay and counting the yards out of big arm ability.

    Do we need it to go 65?
    I guess I'm curious as to what the magic air yards are for "a good deep ball." I know it's not just distance but just curious.
     
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  15. Formerscribe

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    True, but if I remember correctly, Malone was even worse. Then again, he was even worse in every way.
     
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  16. Formerscribe

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    It is possible that the poor throws to Freiermuth against the Falcons were a matter of poor arm strength, though I don't think that is the case. It could be that he has to put extra effort into some throws down the field into tight windows, so they are harder for him to control. Both times, Freiermuth had a defender behind him and a deep safety over the top, if I remember correctly. I don't really think that is the issue, but it's possible.
     
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  17. steel machine

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    The long pass downfield is exciting. You hold your breath when it's your guys. Pretty sure my heart stopped with some of Ben's deep balls. Ben always said he was heaving 1-2 every game.

    I don't think Kenny is gun shy as much as just following orders.
     
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  18. jeh1856

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    He had a 90 yard touchdown reception

    There is that
     
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  19. mikeyg

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    Ben did not have an excellent deep ball
     
  20. mikeyg

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    Ben was chuck and duck on many deep balls. far from a pretty deep ball most of the time. had receivers that could make plays, or come back and get PI's. but not a classic and memorable deep ball thrower.
     
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  21. METALMAN_68

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    In the middle part of his career, I disagree. At the very least, a good deep ball.
     
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  22. Wolfepack88

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    I wonder if the reason is his supposedly undersized hands, but I think his measured like Burrow's and he doesn't wear gloves. No doubt tacky gloves removes some of that "feel" you get from your fingers. Hard to explain but I assume we all have thrown a football with the newman gloves on and off and you immediately feel the difference.
     
  23. Wolfepack88

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    Perhaps my memory is going on me, but I remember being annoyed in Ben's early years of missing deeps balls more than just occasionally by overthrowing the deep ball. Why this sticks in my mind is I remember a piece on Brady having worked on his deep ball relentlessly one off season and my bro and I talking about "Ben needs to do that". Now in Ben's years (say AB and on) he definitely became a good deep ball thrower.
     
  24. Wolfepack88

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    Agree, I hated how long the Steelers stayed with Magnum PI!!
     
  25. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    He dropped dimes on the deep throw for most His career.
    The man was in the tops of the league for air yards for most His career.
     
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