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Penn State gets killer sanctions

Discussion in 'College Football Talk' started by bigsteelerfaninky, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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    60 million dollar fine
    No post season play for 4 years
    Loss of 10 scholarships each year for 4years
    Wins vacated from 1998 to the present

    Man I think the death penalty (one year no football) would have been much better this is harsh

    http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=8191027
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think the death penalty is no football ever, not just one year. But this is still too harsh in my opinion. When you get sanciions by the NCAA its supposed to be because you gained an advantage on the field of play due to your misconduct. This really wasn't a football related crime, cleaning house of all the authority figures involved plus whatever jail time was deemed fit would be enough. Now just more kids are suffering.
     
  3. SC Gamecock

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    I have no problem with anything the NCAA did, except taking Paterno's wins away. That is Grade-A bull****
     
  4. TwentyFourSeven

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    Probably why they did this, the death penalty would not have been harsh enough if it's only one year. But as stated above, I think it's more than just 1 year.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Couldn't care less about anything that effects Paterno but the kids who played on those teams shouldn't be erased, they did nothing wrong.
     
  6. benwallace17

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    I'm not directing this at any of you, but man those people wanting to death penalty
    Were clueless, the death penalty is for multiple offenses MULTIPLE offenses and more aimed at punishing cheaters
    not dirty old men( Sandusky). It's just funny the angry American public hears the word death and their like
    "please give them that one....oh please oh please" this from people who love to shove their morals in your face.

    If joe pa was still alive I wonder if we'd have to tie him to a horse and banish him from town. All while the good Christian people stand by with their torches and pickforks.
     
  7. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    They took the wins away because, the Paterno and Penn State haters would be ticked to hear his name every time when they talk about all-time wins, and that's the reason it was done plain and simple. I don't disagree with any of the Punishment that was handed down other than the wins going away. If I was a player during one of those years I would be ticked, it's not as if you cheated, the games were played fair and square.
     
  8. Coke Oven

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    They oughta burn the damn place down. If any of you f****ts had your children molested while under the supervision and protection of Penn State you'd be singing a different tune.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why, what did the students do? Why can't they just punish the people who were directly involved, they could execute them for all I care but destroy the whole university?
     
  10. FeartheBeard

    FeartheBeard Well-Known Member

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    Dear God can we PLEASE stop with the "PSU Hater/Paterno Hater" crap????? Just because people want him punished doesnt make them haters. I am not necessarily for the student body/current players being penalized but at the same time, they can go to another school and the players can play football for another college. The rape victims can't do anything to make what happened to them go away.
     
  11. diehardsteel

    diehardsteel Well-Known Member

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    Ferrets?
     
  12. winggin

    winggin Well-Blitzed Member

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    This doesn't just affect the football program. All those "non" money generating programs will suffer too.
     
  13. Lizard72

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    Burn it down! Burn it down! Sarcasm for the clueless.

    Seriously I think there's this hatred, because these people don't want to believe it may have happened or is happening at (insert name here) University. What they hope is they "Punish" (like that solves some problem) Penn State and whatever said school they follow takes care of the skeletons properly so they can say it was done the way it was supposed to be done.
     
  14. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    fishnets? i'll bet it's free tickets. no laughing matter, these kids deserved better from all involved. it's a shame that the current student athletes have to pay the price. yes they can go to different schools without sitting out, but be a jr. or sr. and think it doesn't matter. they did nothing wrong. Pitt and WVU could reap some benefits. guys trying to play for draft positioning will suffer the worst in this saga this year. PSU had some very highly rated LB'ers going to be in the draft next year, it could mean alot of dollars to them if they have to transfer or even get good coverage from all this. :cool:
     
  15. BobbyBiz

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    This is really not hurting current players.

    PSU will still have a football team.
    PSU will still play a regular 11 game schedule.
    PSU still has to honor scholarships offered to existing players, even if those players choose not to play.

    If you are a current player and you want to transfer, you will be able to do so without penalty.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/53718/scholarship-penalties-could-crush-psu

    The "punishing current players" claim is a myth.
     
  16. santeesteel

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    Couldn't care less about anything that effects Paterno but the kids who played on those teams shouldn't be erased, they did nothing wrong.[/quote:2i8af80m]
    Agreed! One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch....... if I can quote a little Donny Osmond to you! :D
     
  17. blountforcetrauma

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    I really DON'T think this is too harsh. It MIGHT hurt a FEW kids that are on the team now but in the future what person is gonna wanna play for them anyway? Even if they wouldn't have brought down these hard core sanctions I just think that Penn State will be so tainted for so long that it's not like people are gonna be lining up to play there anyway. I agree that Joe Paterno's statue should have been taken down and I'm glad they stripped him of his glory. He enabled a predator and that is just the absolute bottom line. Martin Luther King said "Sometimes silence is a betrayal" and this is DEFINITELY one of those times. I've read alot of the Freeh report and let me tell you Joe Pa is a coward. I'm not just saying that because I don't like him. I actually always DID like him until this. Even if Chuck Noll had done this I would be in favor of stripping him of all his glory as well. I'm not biased and I bet you that all the JoePa defenders wouldn't be so quick to defend him if his name was JoeSchmo. It's possible to be loyal to a fault.
     
  18. winggin

    winggin Well-Blitzed Member

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    Most of the revenue generated by the football team goes to fund other sporting programs at the university. This will affect a lot more than anyone can imagine. The loss of scholarships mean 40 people who had nothing to do with any of this will get screwed.

    The Death Penalty would have been kinder.

    And since when did we start handing out sentences with out giving someone their day in court?
     
  19. blountforcetrauma

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    The ironic thing about this punishment is that most of it stems from what is in the Freeh Report and as far as I know the powers that be at the university appointed the council that did the report. I think they basically knew what was coming and almost wanted to self impose punishment to give the perception to the public that they are serious about cleaning this up.
     
  20. Lizard72

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    And the Freeh report is basically a bunch of people giving unsubstantiated opinions and perceptions about the case and situation. Not to mention several who actually witnessed a serious crime or had first hand knowledge of said crime and did not report it for fear that they'd lose their jobs. A fear instilled by the "assumed" atmosphere at State College and there are no facts to back any of the fears assumptions up. What I read is a basic pass the blame "we were scared, because someone else told us to be scared".
     
  21. diehardsteel

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    Agreed! One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch....... if I can quote a little Donny Osmond to you! :D[/quote:ofulrrpr]

    I'd have to double check but I can almost say with certainty that's the first Donny Osmond quote so far on this board.
     
  22. BobbyBiz

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    They still have a football team.
    They will still have a full schedule meaning a full slate of home games and all of the revenue that goes with them.
    The scholarship reduction does not effect current players and scholarships.

    As far as their "day in court," this is not a legal issue. Never was. Further Penn State agreed to the sanctions essentially waiving their day in court (if there ever was such a thing).
     
  23. benwallace17

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    Ummm, the current players on the team can't play for a big ten title or a bowl game or the national championship game, sounds like they're being punished to me.
     
  24. BobbyBiz

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    They are free to transfer wherever they'd like. Immediately.
     
  25. winggin

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    I agree the scholarship loss has no bearing on current players. It's the 40 that had nothing to do with it that will never get a scholarship to play D1 ball it hurts.

    And Penn State was assumed guity long before the sanctions were imposed.

    That being said I have no sympathy for PSU. They got what they deserve. It just sucks that more innocent kids will suffer for it.
     

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