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OK, Lawerence Timmons this why we drafted you #1

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Wardismvp, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Your job, and it will be a big one will be to limit
    RG3 as much as humanley possible in his run game. I think we must limit
    his running ability for our defense to be successful. Lets make him beat us with his arm,( and recievers)
    and I am not tying to take anything away from RG3, because he has shown that he is accurate and
    can throw the rock around. He is a phenominal talent. But these are the occasions when you
    have to earn the 50 mill. Are you up to it?
     
  2. bigsteelerfaninky

    bigsteelerfaninky Well-Known Member

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    Yep his only job this week should be a spy on rg3 and if he even thinks about running past the scimmage line timmons should knock him into the next city
     
  3. RobVos

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    I say it is up to our 100 million dollar QB to put up more points than the Skins. They will score, but they typically give up a ton of points, especially against the pass. If Ben lets RG3 outplay/outscore him, that will be a shame.
     
  4. lovembig

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    i think Ben has out played every qb they faced this year with the possible exception of Peyton Manning.

    his wrs are going to have to start being more consistant and i mostly am talking about Wallace. if he struggles again this weekend than the coaches need to take a serious look at starting Sanders and giving him the bulk of the snaps and only use Wallace as a situtiional guy. which is pretty much what he is turning into.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Exactly, Bens play has been exceptional, lets not start demanding he has to be super human now, his teammates need to help him out a little. I want to see more of what we saw from the defense last week, plus less drops and less penalties.
     
  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i'm not so sure timmons is the right guy for this job. he can't keep up with him if he breaks loose. RGIII will make timmons look like a fool in the open field. maybe someone out of that dime package would have an easier time of it. someone with some speed would be better served i would say. :cool:
     
  7. lovembig

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    Ben always seems to be held to a different standard. especially by Steeler fans. if you watch other teams play, you see their qb's getting help from the wr's all the time. look at Eli Manning. his wrs make incredible catches for him. im not taking anything away from Eli who has turned into a great qb, but he gets a lot of help from his wr's.

    how often do we see the Steeler wrs making incredible catches on tough passes to help out Ben. the only guy that consistantly makes all the catches is Health. Brown is turning into a guy that can make all the catches, but he still drops some easy ones. even in the super bowl against the Cards Ben wasnt getting much help. on that winning td pass to Holmes everyone likes to remember the great catch, but how often do we hear what a great pass it was and oh by the way on the play before Ben put it right in Holmes hands and he dropped it.

    Ben is doing everything he can to help this team win. at some point the rest of the team needs to step up and make some incredible plays.
     
  8. rukus4ever

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    And I want Ben and the offense to not turn the ball over, and score 6 when they get in the red zone. Everyone has responsibility.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He's only thrown 3 interceptions on the year, has a 98.6 QB rating and ranked 5th in the league, ahead of Brady, Bress, Eli and Schaub. Bens one of the few on this team doing his job, your expectations are misguided.
     
  10. nitrous12

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    Back to the original topic...I don't think Timmons is the guy for this. Need someone with some closing speed if RG3 breaks contain and heads to the side line.
     
  11. BURGH43STEL

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    He's only thrown 3 interceptions on the year, has a 98.6 QB rating and ranked 5th in the league, ahead of Brady, Bress, Eli and Schaub. Bens one of the few on this team doing his job, your expectations are misguided.[/quote:3pw73q6s]

    Ben and the offense had the opportunity to win and close out the games they loss in crunch time. Ben and the offense did not do their jobs and failed. The expectation is that Ben should be able to lead the offense down the field to win games under those circumstances. IMO, that's not being misguided and he is correct when he stated that everyone on the team has responsibility for losses. The QB gets paid the most. Most of the responsibility will generally fall on the QB's shoulders when the offense doesn't perform when necessary.
     
  12. BURGH43STEL

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    I don't believe most teams have a guy that can keep up with RG3. That's why it will take a complete defensive/team effort to contain RG3.
     
  13. lovembig

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    Ben and the offense had the opportunity to win and close out the games they loss in crunch time. Ben and the offense did not do their jobs and failed. The expectation is that Ben should be able to lead the offense down the field to win games under those circumstances. IMO, that's not being misguided and he is correct when he stated that everyone on the team has responsibility for losses. The QB gets paid the most. Most of the responsibility will generally fall on the QB's shoulders when the offense doesn't perform when necessary.[/quote:mhnp0606]

    so those loses have nothing to do with the fact that they had the lead in all of them and the defense gave it up all 3 games?
     
  14. Blast Furnace

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    Ben and the offense had the opportunity to win and close out the games they loss in crunch time. Ben and the offense did not do their jobs and failed. The expectation is that Ben should be able to lead the offense down the field to win games under those circumstances. IMO, that's not being misguided and he is correct when he stated that everyone on the team has responsibility for losses. The QB gets paid the most. Most of the responsibility will generally fall on the QB's shoulders when the offense doesn't perform when necessary.[/quote:bl45pbhc]

    so those loses have nothing to do with the fact that they had the lead in all of them and the defense gave it up all 3 games?[/quote:bl45pbhc]

    No, nothing at all, it's always Bens fault :roll: If we put up 63 points and lost, thats still on Ben. Expectations around here are ridiculous. But, we're highjacking this thread so enough.
     
  15. shadowmaker

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    Can Wallace tackle? Cause he sure as hell hasnt been able to catch. No way hes as fast as Wallace.

    Didnt we sign a corner or something from the Raiders that runs like a 4.2 40?
     
  16. RobVos

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    Expectations on the defense around here are also ridiculous. Being a shut-down defense is getting to be extremely difficult in today's NFL with all the rules slanted toward favoring the offense. When our offense goes 3 and out, it is just as bad as the D giving up a score, IMO. We have tremendous weapons on the offense and to beat many teams today, you must outscore them. And when you get a chance in the 4th to have a drive to seal the game or to just score, you must do that. Same goes for scoring at the end of the first half. And not just FGs.
     
  17. BurgherBoy7

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    This is just my opinion, but i think someone who could have really excelled in this upcoming game against RG3 would have been Sean Spence. There's a lot of if's to what I said, I mean I doubt he would have been a starter, and possibly wouldnt know the defense as well as he should since he is a rookie and all. But he is a smaller, quicker linebacker,and he is very quick to the ball. I think in a game like this he would have been nice to have out there as a spy following RG3 around all game...
     
  18. Lizard72

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    How bad does losing Spence feel this week? SMH!


    IMO if Spence was still on the team, Batch gets set down in favor of Dwyer.
     
  19. Lizard72

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    Wow, just looked at the timestamp...would have beat you if I didn't go get coffee.
     
  20. Busman

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    Agree 100% . I would add that Spence has very good instincts locating the ball. I personally think he is meant to replace Taz but we shall see

    Bman
     
  21. HugeSnack

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    It will take a team effort and a good scheme. Timmons can't do it on his own, but show me a linebacker that can. What does Griffin run, a 4.4? And he's got good moves and an arm, too. I wouldn't expect the best linebacker in any era to just shut him down as a spy. All that said, having Timmons around is a big boost to the goal of containing him. I like our chances way better than I would for most teams, and Timmons is a big reason why.

    What I really hope is that we don't go all Tebow-mode and not even try rushing the passer. Too much focus on contain and not enough focus on pressure will kill you, even against someone as bad as Tebow. And Griffin's a lot better than him.
     
  22. Lizard72

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    I think you'll see Lewis in around the LOS again this week. Good place to use the other CB's minus Mundy as well. Please note that they played head and shoulders better with him out.
     
  23. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Other than Timmons and Ryan Clark who else in your opinions have really stood out
    this season on this defense? Cmon now lets be honest! Lawerence Timmons dominated
    in the Philly game or was it the Jets game?.Why can't he dominate in this game Sunday?
     
  24. Lizard72

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    I don't know...Will Allen? He did start over Mundy and didn't get his name called out negatively. I don't think Mundy is particularly horrid athletically, just that he seems lost or a few seconds late recognizing things.

    No way he makes the play Lewis did on the ball to Green
     
  25. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    If Timmons wants to contain RGIII, he'd better do better than this:

    [youtube:o99cl9bx]j-7x7dUjhAY[/youtube:o99cl9bx]
     

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