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My thoughts on regular season wk 15

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Dec 16, 2023.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  2. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  3. Rel

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    I was referring more to bringing him in the last 2 minutes in general.
    Besides. Based on his throws, he’s actually worse than Mitch.
     
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  4. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    I think he’s horrible. His throws the last 2 minutes proved it. Wounded ducks.mitch is also terrible but Masons lack of mobility behind that line will get him killed. They have a better chance with McSorley.
     
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  5. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Agreed. Watt and Highsmith have far more versatility than they’re currently being used for. The beauty of Blitzburgh was QBs didn’t know where the pressure was coming from, but this defense is very predictable.

    As you say, the torrid state of the offense is a bigger problem, and puts the defense in awkward positions
     
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  6. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Just look at the job that Brian Flores has done with the vikings defense this year.It's the team with the most blitzes but also the team with the most plays with only 3 man pressure, so it's very hard to prepare against that!

    The Vikings defense was awful last year, but this year they are much better under Flores especially since week 6 despite not having the most talented defense in the league....Far from it!
     
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  7. RobertoC#21

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    Kenny has played qb for the Steelers for less than a seasons worth of games, there is no way he is to blame for any of this! Is he the future? Who can honestly say with the sh** show that this coaching staff has put out there week to week! I blame the coaching, they know what they have or should know what they have, this product that's on the field is of their doing!!
     
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  8. Rush2seven

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    How many points did they give up I. The 4th quarter yesterday?
     
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  9. mikeyg

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    I think he is horrible too, saw enough the first 4 years. he has NO NFL future. pop-gun arm.
     
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  10. mikeyg

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    our coaching STINKS
     
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  11. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    It was bad,but between week 6 and week 14,the vikings defense were great
     
  12. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    Dude, they have a better chance with McBeam.
     
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  13. Steel Hog

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    I am not so sure that KP is that clutch as much as he is able to take advantage of what defenses are giving him toward the end of the games. Makes sense to me as he isn't able to be as clutch in the first 3 quarters. I still don't know what to think about him. JMO>
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    He takes care of the ball and he makes plays in those key situations at the end of a game. Yes, he needs to do more, but we've seen what it looks like with a quarterback who can't do those things the last two weeks and it isn't good.
     
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  15. OB1

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    Why did they just run with Warren then after they got the ball to end the game?

    Your love for Tomlin is blinding you from using facts.
     
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  16. OB1

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    This is the real Tomlin legacy.
     
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  17. james weyandt

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    better not rush Pickett back it will be a disaster
     
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  18. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    Rudolph needs to save Christmas for us and Santa ---Mikes non losing season
     
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  19. Rollers

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    Pretty much a disaster now
     
  20. Da Stellars

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    Did anyone else think after it was 13-0 that we were going to break the 30 pt mark?

    LOL!
     
  21. shaner82

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    I don't know about dirty but it's clearly a penalty. There's no debate to even be had. The rule is black and white. You can't hit the head of a defenceless receiver. He was clearly defenceless and he clearly got hit in the head. Intent doesn't matter. I don't know how people can say it's not a penalty. whether it should or shouldn't be is a different discussion, but in todays NFL, it's a flag every single time
     
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  22. pczach

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    The handling of the quarterback position by Tomlin has been horrible.

    The decision to sign Mitch Trubisky wasn't a great idea, but in and of itself wasn't the end of the world. The huge mistake that Tomlin made was preparing Trubisky to be the starter after they drafted Kenny Pickett. He should have prepared Pickett to be the starter from the beginning instead of giving all the first team reps to Trubisky. We already knew what Trubisky was, and that he was never going to be a big-time quarterback. So Pickett doesn't get all those reps with the number ones in camp, he isn't cramming all the information in his head and validating it on the field against the best players, and he doesn't get more playing time in the preseason games to prepare him to be the day one starter. Training camp and preseason is when you can really spend time with a quarterback and prepare them and work with them.

    Once the season starts, there is game planning, installing the game plan, and limited practice time, so the time that you are able to spend with your first round quarterback is limited, plus he gets even less time because Trubisky is getting the lions share of preparation because he's the starter....not Kenny Pickett.

    Tomlin does all that, and then after 4 games, he throws Pickett out there to be the starter. Tomlin had the entire time from the moment he was drafted to be all in on Pickett and to prepare him as much as you possibly can for that moment of being a starter. Tomlin didn't do that, so Pickett's first season where he went into camp as the #1 QB and was prepared as such was going into this season. What a wasted opportunity. It really bit them in the ass going forward and it was a huge mistake.

    This is why the decision to keep Canada after the 2022 season was so bad. You saw Big Ben struggle in this offense, then Trubisky, and then Pickett. If they fired Canada after the 2022 season, a new OC and new offense would have been in place, and we would have had the ability to see Pickett play in a different system and would have a better idea about what kind of quarterback Pickett is and we would also know a hell of a lot more about the wide receivers that are stifled in this offense. Maybe many of the attitude problems never even happen if there is a competent offense in place and the receivers get a little more action and better route trees that create more opportunities to make plays. The team would have at least had a much better idea of what they had and might be able to make definitive decisions on talent.

    And here we are.

    This season has pretty much been a waste of time and is setting everything back within the organization, while we also watch the great players already on the roster get one year older and there is one less year left with those players in peak form and a year closer to retirement.

    This year has been disastrous in many ways and has set the team back.
     
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  23. mytake

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    College scouting has not been that good either.
     
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  24. troybellringer55

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    I've never seen a team without such leadership and its ever beyond coaching.

    Players don't even seem to like each other, and there isn't much direction by any player.


    Only good thing the Steelers seem good at is TJ Watt getting his sacks... and blocking punts.

    Terrible at everything else.
     
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  25. mytake

    mytake Well-Known Member

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    This is why I believe Tomlin may be coaching his last games as Steelers coach. What we are seeing does not reflect the organization's standards. If Tomlin can convince ARII that he can get the team back to fundamental Steelers football, Tomlin may be kept, but we better see major changes in coaches and player personnel.
     
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