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My thoughts on reg season wk 2

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Sep 14, 2025 at 4:07 PM.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Daniels didn't struggle at times he was their best OL, unfortunately he got injured in his last season with the team. Seamalu is just old and past his prime he sucked last year, they probably should've drafted a guard in the draft this year.
     
  2. steelersrule6

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  4. Formerscribe

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    You know this is being used to attack Tomlin, which is fair. That it happened under Noll shows that maybe that isn't quite as fair a criticism of the head coach as it might seem on the surface.
     
  5. Steelersfan43

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    True but the eagles defense was horrible in 2023.Miami had a good defense before they had so many injuries on defense at the end of the year....Fangio had a lot of success as DC in the last 15 years as in SF, Chicago and now Philly....Even as a head coach, the broncos defense was very solid, it was because of his offense that he lost his job

    Tomlin and Butler or Tomlin and Austin are below average defensive coach with scheme who don't work in the current NFL
     
  6. Formerscribe

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    The Steelers took Johnson in the third round. I think they see he has potential.

    Of course, they could have put off addressing the position if they hadn't been dumb enough to let Harris go.
     
  7. Steelersfan43

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    This is a major problem at the o-line but this is also the case at the other position like Payton Wilson,Porter Jr,etc....They can't take the next step because the steelers can't develop under the current coaching staff
     
  8. mikeyg

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    Noll was WELL past his prime, too - at this time

    we BOTH see the similarity.

    the kid should not have been on the field.
     
  9. stangboy06

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    Could somebody tell me how there was no clear recovery of that kick off in the end zone that gave the Seahawks a touchdown? The only one that I saw with possession was a stealer the Seahawk guy didn’t have clear possession and rolled out of bounds and no one reviewed it or even questioned it.
     
  10. MojoUW

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    Expand on that idea.

    The biggest hole in Payton Wilson's game is that he can not get off blocks and/or fight through traffic - a complaint that dogged him in college as well. I think we all can agree on that. Here is just one example of a draft write up that identifies this weakness in his game: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/payton-wilson/32005749-4c77-2747-aac4-9ba7cad134d0

    Please explain how coaching can change that. What would a non-Steelers coaching staff do differently? What could the current staff do that they are not doing?
     
  11. Robert

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    I disagree with some of that. Coaching is greater than talent (to a degree) IMO. A great coaching staff can elevate mediocre players into being a great team. A lack luster coaching staff is not going to see a great team under any circumstances IMO. Obviously there has to be some base skill for the coaches to work with, but look at a team like the Cowboys. How many great players have they had? And they are still mired in the same spot we are. Lots of examples like that.

    We have coaching issues. Until that problem is addressed, it won't matter who Khan drafts, trades for or gives an extension to. We continually show up, appearing to have not studied any tendencies of the other team, or to be prepared for what they are most likely to do in their effort to shut us down. (We suck against the run and the middle of the field is a gimmee. Expect teams to continue to pound on these areas, but we won't change anything to stop it).

    We have been mired in the same purgatory for 10 years. Who are the common denominators during that time? It is not TJ Watt. It is not any QB. It is not Patrick Queen.
     
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  12. Steelersfan43

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    You're not wrong, but the Steelers have problems everywhere, like development, roster construction, etc.

    Porter had a good rookie season, but he's regressed since then... other young players haven't progressed as they should.

    I don't think the Steelers will do that since it's never been their style, but they need to change everything, like the coaching staff, players, and front office too. I didn't like Khan's offseason, since the team is much older, and as for Tomlin, he could be successful on another team if he has a good coaching staff around him. I don't know if it's because of Rooney or Tomlin, but the coaching staff has been small and weak since at least 2019.

    Austin is a good position coach, but not a good DC... Butler was a good linebacker coach, but as a DC, it was a different story... O-line coach has been terrible since Munchak left.

    Tomlin's floor is very solid, but his ceiling is the problem, and yes, Khan is the GM, but Tomlin has a say in roster construction too.

    It would be good for everyone if we had a complete overhaul. Look at how much better the Eagles and Andy Reid have been since they split up. Unfortunately, I can't trust Art Rooney to make the right decision after that. The Steelers way was great for so long, but it's not working anymore.
     
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  13. MojoUW

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    Ok. Again...assume everything you say is true. Got evidence and examples of that? Or are you just angry the Steelers are not winning more?

    You made a big claim about Wilson's development. Then backed off when asked to explain it.

    You are making really big claims again. So...which young players? Brod Jones? He is struggling EXACTLY how his 19 college starts went. It was just that in college most of the guys he faced were not NFL caliber so it looked better on paper. But many many people pointed out his technique and consistency issues. So, is that a lack of coaching or a player just being flawed in a way that only the player can fix...if he can fix it?

    Patrick Queen is having the EXACT same issues in Pittsburgh that he had in Baltimore. Baltimore traded for Roquan Smith to help alleviate some of Queen's processing issues and coverage responsibilities. Then they let Queen walk in FA because Queen didn't appear to be able to fix some of his issues. Was Baltimore bad at coaching too?

    Ramsey is suffering the same inability to stay with top WRs in Pittsburgh that has followed him for several years now. Ramsey still has elite ball skills, can pressure out of the slot, and is an incredible run defender as a DB. But he simply is no longer a great man coverage CB especially when he can not use the sideline to pin the WR in place. Unfortunately, Jalen Ramsey still thinks he is a great man coverage CB and he thinks he can still close on anyone to break up the pass. He keeps trying to do it, and the WR just runs past him for a big play. I guess that could be coaching in that they traded for Ramsey and keep putting him out there. Or it could be Ramsey refusing to adapt this his declining physical abilities.

    Andy Reid got better when Mahomes came into his life. The Chiefs have struggled mightily the past few seasons to put together a functional offense without Tyreek Hill to just destroy defensive gameplans. Their offense is now "Holy Crap! Mahomes save us!".

    I look around the league every Sunday....and the biggest difference I see is that the Steelers have ****ty QB play. That's it. The teams that are winning have flaws and holes too. They just have a QB that covers it up.
     
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  14. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    The chiefs had the number 1 offense in 2022 in the first year without Hill and also make the super bowl the next 2 years even if Mahomes was not at his best and the offense overall had some major problem,like wide receiver in 2023 and o-line(LT) last season.He also won 11 games per year with Alex Smith in 5 seasons with a team who was 2-14 before he take the job in 2013
     

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