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Martavis Bryant

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 86WardsWay, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I really hope that Bryant screws his head on tight and doesn't mess up his promising NFL career but the more I look at him the more I see another Chris Henry. The guy was insanely talented but couldn't make wise decisions to save his life (literally). Sure, a couple failed drug tests shouldn't be so alarming in this day and age of the NFL but continuing bad decisions when you could be a great contributor on and off the field can compile very quickly. I hope he realizes this. I do have my doubts though. I want him to prove me wrong.

    I don't think my comparison is too far off. Does anyone else have this same concern or am I overreacting a little.

    Just to be clear I do not have the same pessimism with LeVeon Bell.
     
  2. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    The problem isn't all the promise of his career it is how he deals with everyday life and getting away from what led him down the path to thinking drugs are an answer. Addiction is no easy thing and while I'm sure he realizes his mistake, sometimes that doesn't matter when you are looking to make the pain stop or to feel numb about everything or to just function. My older brother is an alcoholic and he had 16 years sober and then one day just started drinking again because it seemed like a good idea. Fortunately he isn't a fall down drunk who would risk getting behind the wheel, he is more of a social drinker who relates to people more when he drinks. These are hard things to battle sometimes and none of us knows what his personal life is like.
     
  3. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    It's his choice. Is he the next Josh Gordon or will he wise up, start making the right decisions and salvage his career? He can become a special player with his size/speed combo or he can be remembered in a "what could have been" way for the rest of his life.
     
  4. Lizard72

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    Wait I thought Marijuana was not addictive? Hmm, interesting.
     
  5. M. Connors

    M. Connors Well-Known Member

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    I don't agree with the Chris Henry comparison. That guy was in trouble with the law multiple times over several years, including assault charges, gun charges, DUIs (multiple), among others. Bryant smoked a few joints. Is it smart? No. Will he lay off of it until he retires? We shall see...but he's nowhere close to being compared to Henry IMO.
     
  6. SteelTerp

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    It isn't. You can say it is, but it scientifically, physically isn't.
     
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  7. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Even though I realize the sarcasm, I wasn't referring to smoke marijuana as the addiction but speaking more about chasing that feeling it gives you. So while as SteelTerp say you can't get addicted to marijuana you can become addicted to what it does to you. If you fall back in to the same habits time and time again the addiction is very hard to break. As you start to use these substances to feel happiness or to numb your senses, your body produces less and less of the chemicals like serotonin that give you those happy feelings and you have to get them from somewhere else and you have to continually search for that better high. It is a very tough thing to break
     
  8. SteelTerp

    SteelTerp Well-Known Member

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    You can say the same thing about riding a motorcycle or eating fried chicken
     
  9. Bleedsteel

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    Terp, you can argue with Thorn, all you want, but I think he makes some good points, and sounds like someone who has seen the effects, firsthand...

    I`ve been there, done that, etc...
    And still like to pick on people from the Clowns, Like Gordon, or Manziel...

    The bottom line, tho, is...

    If it`s so easy to quit, why do so many young men throw their multi-million dollar careers in the toilet, just `cause they would rather get high?

    I hope Bryant isn`t one of them...

    I was blindsided by the fact that he failed FOUR TESTS, to get suspended...

    I had heard of NOTHING in his past, to make me suspect that...

    I think Bell made a bad choice, in a "one time thing" kinda situation...
    Probably wrong about that too...

    We really don`t know these players` lives, as fans...

    Some make mistakes that stand out as "red flags", some don`t...


    I`m not gonna judge.

    I`m hopin` Bryant gets his life under control, but, I wouldn`t be surprised, now, if he doesn`t, either...

    If he can`t... I still think we have enough talent on the team, to succeed, without him.

    GO STEELERS!
     
  10. JAD

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    Yea, it wasn't the fact the he was suspended for smoking Marijuana, it was that 4 times that he tested positive. Sounds like he can't stop, which scares the crap out of us. Hope he uses his time wisely to get the help he needs during his suspension, but he didn't do it the 4 previous times. What a knucklehead to even think that he could be throwing his talent out the window. One more time and he's a goner.
     
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  11. SteelerJJ

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    Eric Green would be a good comparison. He has the physical tools to be dominant but they are no good if he lacks the discipline to go along with those attributes.
     
  12. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Ricky Williams.
     
  13. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I thought smoking marijuana made you susceptible to being addicted to Doritos. :shrug:
     
  14. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    The epitome of arrogance. He doesn't strike me as a guy who cares about anything or anyone but himself. Not only is his behavior self destructive but it is selfISH and that's really bad when you play a team game for a living. Here's the question though. Even IF Bell hadn't got caught that very day with Blount wouldn't he still have wound up failing a test too? I mean it's just a special kind of stupid.
     
  15. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    This is an honest question. If it's NOT addictive then why do people throw away the potential for millions of dollars just to smoke it? Even IF it's technically not "addictive" it certainly must have some kind of allure to it to make people sacrifice so much for it.
     
  16. jeh1856

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    It's b
    Hypothetically speaking, It's been 40 years and it was chocolate.
     
  17. jeh1856

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    I'm th
    I'm thinking it's not so much the weed as the lifestyle and dedication that needs work.
     
  18. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    When in doubt, ask Frank.

    http://www.talktofrank.com/drug/cannabis then look under "The Risks" and "Getting Hooked".

    This site is an attempt at a balanced approach, though it's obviously government funded. So take it as you will.

    In short, it's not so much addiction as dependence. Which kind of chimes with what people have said about lifestyle here. If there's a pot-shaped hole in your life, then you need something to fill it...
     
  19. SteelTerp

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    Why did Sheldon Richardson drive 180 mph with a 14 year old in the backseat? Why did Plaxico shoot himself in the leg? Why do countless players drive while drunk when Uber is the easiest thing on the planet to use?

    Football players aren't the brightest, most upstanding, thinking about the long term people out there..
     
  20. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's the drug of choice for a lot of people who self medicate. (Alcohol is a bigger drug of choice for many people)

    There's an underlying cause to their need. The drug itself isn't the problem.

    It's partly where the "gateway" myth started. For those people, if it's not one drug, or if that drug isn't enough, they'll find another. (But for most, once they find what works, they don't progress to something else)

    Many people use marijuana (or alcohol) responsibly and recreationally. They may even be long term, chronic users. But they are neither addicted nor do they NEED it. It's just what they do for fun or relaxation. I'm not sure which camp MB falls into. I don't know whatever demons he may have. Or if he's just young, immature, and stupid. I'm sure he travels in a circle where marijuana use is rampant, and he may be a bit of a follower... and still too young and dumb to know he's not immortal nor is he untouchable.
     
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  21. SteelerGlenn

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  22. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    9% of people becoming addicted doesn't seem very addicting to me (vs. other drugs that is). It goes back to what I said about certain people having psychological or emotional disorders that self medicate. It's difficult to know where that stops, and true addiction begins. (The 17% of those who started in their teens is a more troubling stat. It suggests that younger brains are more susceptible)
     
  23. SteelerGlenn

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    He said it wasn't addictive, regardless of the percentage he is wrong.
     
  24. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm saying that percentage calls whether or not it's actually addictive into question. ;)

    Some people have addictive personalities. That doesn't necessarily make what they do truly addictive. I know it's not a fair example, but gambling isn't addictive. But people with disorders can become addicted to it.
     
  25. SteelerGlenn

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