Kenny Pickett Admits Browns Gameplan Surprised Steelers

Why don’t you quote roethlisberger from last night? Oh wait, that’s easy. It doesn’t fit your argument. If this was any other quarterback you would be leading the charge with the torch and pitchfork crowd. Instead you grasp at straws

 

That's all well and good, but on the play just before that, Pickett put the ball out there for him and he didn't get his head around. He only put one hand up and knocked the pass down. He didn't talk about that one.

I guess my point is that everyone is just piling on Kenny Pickett. There is much more going on and wrong with this entire offense. He's a part of the problem, but it's not just Pickett.

I am all for doing anything that would help him. If it means being benched and watching, that's fine. I just think he is in a terrible position and isn't being helped enough because the people that are supposed to be helping him don't know what to do.

 

This shows just how moronic and change resistant they are. How on earth Harris ended up with more carries than a guy with 14.2 TPC avg is beyond me.

He's clearly the better back, by a mile.

 

I have enough over the years to tell me that MT would arther lose than change, and that also applies to the organization from top to bottom. The coaching staff needs to be cleaned out top to bottom.

 

This guy rarely goes through his progressions. He seems to get locked in on his primary and then proceeds to bail. God forbid if it's a roll out then you automatically limit him to one pass option. It doesn't matter if they were prepared for what Browns would do, or not...he's still the same Pickett

 

You don't even know what you're talking about. I've been a huge Tomlin supporter since he was hired, and I have defended every quarterback that has played here. I say when they screw up or need to get better, but I also know how difficult it is to play the position.

I'm not one to bash any quarterbacks. That's an asinine statement by you because I never have bashed a QB. Nice try making **** up about me. It seems to be a trend around here to make stuff up about people when they can't make a real argument.

Show my where I bashed a quarterback and I am part of the torch and pitchfork crowd.

You can't because you're full of sh!t.

 

That's also on coaching and scheme, as well. Pretty hard to peruse the field for your second, never mind your third option, when three quarters of your drop backs there's a defender flushing you out of the pocket in the middle of your first read.

 

Oh Lord. The designed roll-outs. GULP! some serious high school stuff there.

 

9 carries...120 some odd yards. Granted 74 on one, but energized the O every time he was in, but let's not get them to excited.

 

Regardless, it doesn't happen every possession and when he has the time he's still terrible. As a professional qb you have to know how to adjust to blitz packages and maybe align your protection to help with problematic rushes coming from certain directions . He's failing miserably whether he knows pressure is coming or not. He has no pocket presence and at times he's bailing out of the pocket too soon and rolling into pressure. He's flinging flare outs almost immediately upon snap and then you have to worry about his accuracy issues whether or not he's going to throw a backwards pass when he throws those. They rarely work so that's definitely a scheme issue, but irks me more then anything with him is that's automatically his first read. He panics so much it's affecting his decision making which is why he continually throws passes in front of the sticks instead of allowing his receivers to get to the sticks. He's already threw that flare pass out or he's dumping the ball off five yards before the first down marker with defenders already on the receiver. He's just not seeing the field or processing what he needs at all.

 

More players need to speak up. The job these coaches are doing is borderline negligent

 

Amen.

Good teams are complex and appear to be simple.

Bad teams are simple and appear to be complex.

 

And everyone who knows football, knows KFP cant read zone defense!

 

Rose colored glasses, leave KFP in there, we dont care about winning. Oh wait its Canadas fault. You my friend will find out like many others when we get a new OC next year. Than the excuse will be, well we got to give KFP 2 years to learn plays from new OC.

 

You can believe whatever you like. I see reasons why the whole thing doesn't work. I agree that Pickett isn't playing well and say so. It's others that don't even want to consider that there are other reasons, big reasons, why the offense sucks. It's not just one thing, it almost never is when things are this bad.

The fact is they put Kenny Pickett in because they weren't winning.

I consider the fact that I am at least partially wrong. People like you won't even consider that you are wrong about him and he can be a better player with more time, and new system, and a new coach.

You just scream that Pickett sucks. Great breakdown by you. You have a real gift for explaining what's happening on the field and real grasp of X's and O's.

Did you think Josh Dobbs sucked and couldn't play when he was here?

Why is it that Russell Wilson was washed up and couldn't play anymore last season, but with Sean Payton he looks like a good quarterback again? Could it be coaching and a good offensive system?

Why was Jared Goff run out of town with the Rams and is now a very good quarterback with one of the highest ratings in the NFL in a different system and with a different OC? Could it be a good system and coaching?

 

You can't be missing wide open receivers that are open for a TD, Diontae would've scored if Pickett just throws the ball .

 

You want xs n os ? Ok. First and foremost, KFP has no pocket presence, new OC going to fix something he should already have at this point? Here comes your counter argument, KFP doesn’t have time to pass, BS. Grant it sometimes he doesn’t like the rest of the qbs in the league, yet they are not throwing up awful numbers like KFP. KFP also finds ways to f?ck up a clean pocket by spinning like a ballerina , right into a sack.
Happy feet syndrome, once again hopefully he can be coached to quit doing that. Once again he has been playing that position for years, no good qb has HFS and succeeds at this level.
Vision, or the lack there of. He has no peripheral vision whatsoever, more like tunnel vision. Once again hopefully coaching will break him of this habit.
Finally, a lot of reports that KFP cant read zone defenses. You look at stats its not a lie. Now I agree with you coaches can help him with this problem.
Not gonna argue with you, im a Steeler fan just like you! I want KFP to succeed, just not looking good at the moment. Thank you. @pczach

 

All fans should want to see every player do well and want the team to win.

 

Your Kenny Picket and everyone now knows you can't read a Zone defense. So why the surprise that the Browns who are typically a Man-to-Man ran a lot of Zone yesterday....

You better get used to teams completely changing their defense around for you. This is what everyone refers to as "soon as there is tape on this guy" things will change.

To me this is why Kenny has had success late in the game or in the 2-minute drill. Defenses go to a more basic man-to-man late in games when they can't get players off and on the field.

 

I haven't re-watched the entire game, but Pickett missed at least three big plays. He had Johnson with a step for a big play on one pass. The time he scrambled for a first down, if he stepped up and threw he had a big play right in front of him. He also had Austin on a cross over the middle that should have been a walk-in touchdown. Throw in just making a bad throw to Johnson on the final third down and those are four plays that lost the game. Completing even one of them likely gets the Steelers to 7-3.

Pickett wasn't playing great early in the season, but he has regressed terribly the last four weeks. I've been one of the people steadily preaching patience, but he is trending in the wrong direction and it cost the Steelers the game in Cleveland. Unless they figure out how to at least get him back where he was at the end of last season or bench him, it's going to cost them the season.

 

Just once I'd like someone from the other team say, in his post-game, "Man.,,, The Steelers really surprised us. We had no idea they would be so innovated."

 

You're asking that question to the wrong guy. Pickett wasn't surprised. Canada was surprised.

If what you say is true and you are correct about Pickett against zone, how could his OC not be aware of it and think other teams won't take advantage of that? Kenny Pickett had to play in an offense that was set up to play against man coverage. That was his OC's plan, not Pickett's.

It was the OC that planned on facing man coverage and preparing the gameplan for that, I guess the OC doesn't know that his own quarterback struggles with zone. Only opponents know that Pickett struggles against zone. And Canada is one of the guys trying to teach Kenny Pickett.....and Canada doesn't know his own QB struggles with zone??

Think about that for a minute.