Just a question for the MB..

a 1st and 3rd for what? are they just giving them away?

 

oh, Ben. it helps to read the whole thread i guess. no team is given a 1st and 3rd for a 30 year old qb thats been beaten to heck.

 

Hypothetically speaking, are you on crack?
Its amazing how quickly people want to ditch Ben (not saying you, but others). Have they not forgotten about
Bubby Brister
Mark Malone
David Woodley
Kent Graham
Neil Odonnell
Kordell Stewart
Tommy Maddoxx
and any other stiff that I may have missed.

 

This.
Imagine how bad this team would be WITHOUT Ben. The running backs are sketchy at best, the oline can't run block, and it can't pass block either. Teams already don't have to respect the Steelers run game, just think if they didn't have to respect the QB either. They'd be the first team in history to go 3 and out on EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION in the game. No yards, no first downs, no points, no wins.

 

if you still believe in ben :no
if you think ben is almost done :yes
i would say no

 

I see this a lot on here and it makes no sense. Throwing out all those names means nothing. Just because we had so many bad QB's over the years doesn't mean it's going to take another 25 years to find our next franchise QB. Back in the 80's teams didn't worry as much about finding a great QB. In today's NFL it's the #1 priority.

Yes, I would take a 1st and a 3rd for Ben He may very well be able to keep this team competitive for another 4 years, but that's not exactly a long time when talking about a franchise player. Besides, he hasn't exactly been winning many games for us over the last couple years.

 

Which ones of those were number 1 picks?

 

Good for you, and I never said I would either. But, the hypothetical trade was for a 1st and 3rd round picks.

 

I don't see a great list of upcoming QB's for next years draft to make me want to lean towards this trade. I think we can still right this ship and Ben being on board would be a big part of it. I'm certainly not ready to start fresh with a new rookie QB anytime soon tbh.

 

i would take a look at kevin hogan from stanford in a couple of years

 

No.

 

I would most likely take it, esp if we are going to continue with the offensive strategy we are currently employing.

 

Next time make it a poll question where the member votes are hidden. LOL

 

I'd say no, there is a chance I, though probably not a good one, that the pieces fall together for this team over the next 2-3 yrs, having a capable, experienced QB would be important. Wouldn't trade Ben now.

Though I think this would be a bad trade for both sides. The Vikes give up a lot for a QB who may not help them. The Steelers risk giving up a QB that can for a possible Cam Heyword and Limas Sweed in return.

 

Remember the Hershel Walker trade? I think the Vikes have learned their lesson.

 

I would say no. The o-line needs to play better. Any other quarterback behind this line would be toast. I still think he can do it.

 

Way too much "dead money" to trade Ben this year or next.

 

I don't think there is a qb in next years draft worthy of being called a franchise qb in the first place.

as far as the list of qb's bobby keeps listing we forget bill cowher was not big on that position, ever. I don't think it will take us that long the next time around.

we also have to remember ben didn't do this alone. we had a very good team around him.

the patriots are finding out right now how well an older qb can do without weapons around him and they are squeaking by right now.

sure ben won two SB's several years ago. he's been here 10. now the weapons have diminished and he doesn't look near as franchise like as of late, since the weapons are gone.

right after the vikes game? i'd still say no, but as for him leading us to the promised land by himself, is getting more out of the question every year he ages.

we also have to get rid of other players as his salary goes up and this isn't helping him or this team. age happens and time moves on, if this team doesn't take that risk at some point, it will be a long time before we see another Lombardi, with or without ben.

you can't gut a team to keep one player and expect it to function well.