Jason Whitlock Calls out Coach Tomlin.

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20...alls-out-tomlin-for-misuse-of-roethlisberger/

 

I'm surprised Whitlock is a Ben man

Figured he would like

Cam or tyrod Taylor or rg 111

 

He is right, Tomlin won a SB with Cowhers Crew and went to another also with Cowhers Crew.......... Since then......... NOTHING!! Oh wait yes alot of good draft picks hahaha

 

and then rebuilt the entire roster in to a 10 win playoff team...

 

It does seem like Tomlin is squandering away these last few years of Ben's career.

 

Like it says in the article, is he really maximizing it's potential?

 

THAT is my worst nightmare. I'm terrified that Ben won't get to another Super Bowl. Then when he retires, there's a good chance we won't even get to the playoffs for a long time.

 

Another writer for the Trib wrote a great article last night, and said things we all have said. He didn't sugar coat it at all. Obviously I don't attend the weekly presser, but do any of the reporters ever ask MT the really tough questions? I have heard that in some of those pressers the staff has an idea of what will be asked, so the HC doesn't get blindsided with a question.

 

We have the #3 passing offense (yards) and we are #5 in points per game (and that's with Vick/Landry playing 4 games). That's an offense that's been almost entirely built on his watch. I notice it's common to put blame on Tomlin for everything that goes wrong, and write him off for everything that goes right (Cowher's players! Haley/Munchak did that!, etc).

I'm not one to overreact to individual plays/games. I want to understand what happened on a particularly bad play that cost us the game. I want to understand why the spacing in our coverage zones is so easily exploited.

I think Tomlin is a good coach that has largely rebuilt the roster through an era of post super bowl/contending, players retiring, cap crunching that causes a lot of teams end up in the gutter for awhile. I appreciate his aggressiveness and the way the players respond to him. In the past I had been critical of his dependency on cover 3/6, but with Lebeau leaving, we've seen more Cover 2. Hopefully we get some actual cover talent in here, and put more press into our packages as that's easily my biggest gripe.

It seems to me that a large portion of the fan base feels entitled to wins. I want to win. When we don't I want to understand why. I don't care for large scope narratives that really only exist to make the entitled feel better.

Could we fire Tomlin for missing the playoffs for the 3rd time in 4 years? Sure we could. This is a results business. But that wouldn't mean he's a bad coach. I think he's a really good coach, and would be re-hired in a mili-second.

 

Not saying Tomlin is blameless, because he certainly isn't but Ben should shoulder that load also.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...ben-roethlisbergers-miscues-against-baltimore

 

True, he does share some of the blame but imagine where we'd be without him.

 

Does anyone think that belicheat would have won 4 without brady? I don't.

Yes we will miss the day Ben retires or gets released. But Ben has had these head scratcher games the latest being against the crows where he stated he never got into a rhythm. They don't have the Defense to bale them out. Focus on the Defense in the offseason and ditch the soft zone.

 

And vice versa. He went 11-5 with Cassell and he is horrible. Trust me no one despises their entire organization more than I do except maybe BFT but no one leaves no stone unturned like he does and we can definitely use some of what he does to get his team prepared week in and week out.

 

I agree with steeldeal on this and think the opposite. Brady isn't squat without Belichick. The Pats manged 11 wins with Cassel at QB...who, at the time, had not started a game at QB since high school. Despite what the press wants everyone to think, Brady is just one cog (though an important one) in the offensive wheel. That offense operates so well because all 11 men execute to near perfection. It's easy to look like a great QB when A. The line blocks so well; B. The plays work (especially the pick plays) as designed: the primary or secondary receiver is usually wide open; C. The receivers can run for ten yards after the QB has thrown it only three.

 

Some people seem to forget the job this coaching staff did with the adversity the team's faced. They've had key injuries to different positions and were able to remain competitive despite all that. I doubt the ownership will overreact like the fans and media. The ownership will look at the situation logically and realize this team has good coaching.

Ben is mostly responsible for squandering this team's opportunities because of the mistakes he's made over the years. The Steelers could had won this division if Ben didn't throw two divisional games away all by himself (Ravens and Cincy).

Ben's also had multiple opportunities in recent years to drive the offense down the field to win close games. Where he once excelled in close games earlier in his career he's recently had difficulty delivering when it's counted the most.

At the end of the day whatever criticisms people have for the coaches also fall at the feet of Ben.

 

I wonder if Brady is more coachable than Ben. Brady was a late round pick that wasn't expected to do/be much. I recall that being stated when he won that SB against Carolina. I believe the narrative at the time was that he was allowing himself to be coached into what he is.

Wasn't there a bit of an issue with Ben when Haley was brought on board?

 

Oh Tomlin took the Steelers to the playoffs how did they do? Did they make a run at the Super bowl because Tomlin always says he plays to win Super bowls.

 

Serious question, how many would Belichick have won with Ben? He would have demanded that Ben make better decisions with the football I'll guarantee you that. That would have been drilled into Ben's head every single day rather than the coddle job that goes on with Tomlin and Colbert.

 

Ben is squandering the last few years of his career by playing poorly in certain games

 

I say that Brady's retirement presser will be a joint one. I say him and Bill call it quits at the same time and Brady rides off in to the sunset with Gisele and lives out the rest of his days dressed in a turkey suit scaring children. That's what I would do anyway.

 

Not defending Colbert, but what does he have to do with Ben's play on the field? I don't think I've heard any GMs calling out their QBs in the press when they stink up the joint. Maybe Jerry Jones commenting on his back ups, but not the starter. Sure he's made some dumb comments in the press about pressing the action, but where's Randy Fichtner in this deal? Off playing angry birds? I'd put more blame on the coaches and Ben than KC's involvement.

 

Good question.

Ben would have had to learn to play within the system. I don't know if he could do that: Ben likes to chuck it downfield. This makes him a little more exciting...but with a tradeoff.

Brady is all about little chunks at a time. Yes, every now and then he'll throw deep. But if I were to guess, 80% of his passes are in the 3-6 yard range. He's accurate, but his receivers also catch and run. This year's Eagles' game was a rare exception in which the Pats' receivers had a case of the dropsies.

I think Peyton and Brees would have SIX or more rings if they were the Pats' QB since 2001, maybe more. I think both would have beaten the Giants twice. Because the one thing Brady can't do is complete deeper balls in tight spaces. He is not terribly accurate beyond that 3-6 yard range, especially in big moments. In both SB losses, Brady missed a lot of receivers bad.

 

I have to respectfully disagree with that entire last paragraph, 12to88. I don't think Peyton or Brees even gets the Pats to 6 Super Bowls the way Brady has. And when Brady had a deep threat in Randy Moss he proved that he could throw a great deep ball. He's had basically no-name receivers his entire career and has still managed to become arguably the GOAT. I would argue that he actually throws a better deep ball than Ben who sometimes waits a millisecond too late to deliver it or has a tendency to float it up into double and triple coverage. Ben's not particularly accurate when he throws the ball deep and the Steelers front office has done a pretty good job of supplying him with deep threats over the years. He's always had a better WR corps than Brady. Well, enough bragging on Marsha. I'm making myself nauseous!

 

Just making reference to Colbert's recent comments to Ben. It's easy to overlook the dumb mistakes when you win, but when you get your butt handed to you by an inferior team and get outplayed by an inferior quarterback maybe you need to be a little more disciplined in your approach. You are right about about more blame being placed on the coaching staff though.