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Jason McIntyre thinks Steelers should trade T.J. Watt to turn around the franchise

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Aug 23, 2024.

  1. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    It also would help if the gameplan actually addressed the team they are playing against and utilized their own strengths vs the others weaknesses. The we gonna do what we do mantra needs to die via mercy killing at this point.
     
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  2. thorn058

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    So everyone who is in favor of keeping talented players to compete are content with mediocrity? That's a grand canyon sized jump. What will you claim if a trade happens, they get an epic haul and those players stink, the team is still .500 and they still lose to a team that hits at the right time in the playoffs?
     
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  3. Woodson two-six

    Woodson two-six Well-Known Member

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    So your justification of sticking with the same thing that is not working is to ignore the problem b/c of the possibility of failure if there's a change?

    That's a great way to live life, for you I guess?! Making a change when things are clearly not working, is apparently not a good idea.

    I would suggest you read #9 in your "tag line" at the bottom of your posts, "Do nothing which is of no use"! Ha, Complete contradiction!!
     
  4. thorn058

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    You are using false equivalency to back your narrative. I never said that change isn't needed or isn't what I want. You are again taking a huge leap from not wanting to trade Watt to obviously not wanting to change the team and their fortunes. You are saying trading Watt is the only path forward and those who do not agree are content with the team failing. Trading Watt could be a catalyst for change it also could be a complete failure as well. I would rather keep a generational talent like Watt, keep the defense as a strength and change not only the way they practice, the offensive philosophy as a whole, the way they approach game planning, getting rid of the myriad of Tomlin quirks that hamstring the team such as his policy on injured starters, in-game adjustments, the chasing of players he liked in drafts past, staff hirings, to name a few.

    Sadly a good portion won't be fixed until Tomlin decides to find life beyond coaching. Trading Watt while his value is high hoping that it fixes the team being stuck in a rut is the very epitome of magic beans.
     
  5. Woodson two-six

    Woodson two-six Well-Known Member

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    Entitled to your opinion. I disagree! Good thing for you and many others is that we'll probably stay on this train for quite a while. Buckle up. Gonna be a rough season
     
  6. Wolfepack88

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    I don't agree with the idea but by the time we are really competing again TJ will have aged out be on the downside. We are so far away from being really good its sad. As the late Jerry West said, being the middle is the worst place to be in complete no mans land and that's where we are and likely to be or worse for quite some time.
     
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  7. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    I think we are competing by the end of this season.
     
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  8. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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    I see the so-called logic. Same as tanking the season and more to get in position to draft high for a franchise QB.

    In this thought experiment, we would want multiple first round picks. Probably such a deal would be to a team on the cusp of moving up to a top contender and already has a franchise QB. Would be fair to Watt too.

    Not impossible anymore because we have the Khan man running things.

    Don`t know if we would have enough draft capital to move all the way up at or nearly #1 a couple years from now (2026 draft).
     
  9. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is that's what makes a discussion on the board work. I'm often happy to change a POV after a well reasoned discussion. I'm going to assume by you screen name and avatar that you lived through those lean years in the 90's where free agency would strip good player after good player from the Steelers and it would be a few years before a newer player reached the level of the one that left. Curious as to why you'd go back to those days by dumping players to force a change of fortunes.
     
  10. AFan

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    Not necessarily advocating trading TJ, but looking at it from a purely mercenary perspective:

    - TJ will turn 30 in Oct
    - His style of play is conducive to injury, does he even have 2 more yrs of DPOY type play left?
    - When his brother turned 30, he had 22 sacks ahead of him, and 92 behind him.
    - Even with him this team is a 9-8 7th seed type team
    - Now would be the time to trade him, especially if you can get a 1st rounder + other picks

    I doubt very much they'd trade him, but there is a logic to it.
     
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