Is Dobbs more Valuable on the practice squad?

Lets say this is our game day QB depth Chart.

1) Ben
2) Mason
3) Haskins (Inactive)
4) Dobbs (Practice Squad)


Using the Covid Roster rules can Dobbs be Active on Gameday if he is one of the "two practice squad players to the active roster"?

Thus giving the team some options on short yardage situations with a mobile QB.

2021 ROSTER Rules carried over from 2020.

• Expansion of practice squads to 16 players, including up to six who have more than two accrued seasons.
  
  
• The ability to protect up to four practice squad players per week from being signed by other teams.
  
  
• Elevation of up to two practice squad players to the active roster, without removing any current players, before 4 p.m. ET the day before a game.

 

I know teams used to play around with this when there was something call an Emergency 3rd Sting QB who suited up on game day. The 3rd string QB would be in pads and was only allowed to enter a game if the 1st string QB would not be back for the rest of the game.

Teams would have their actual backup QB listed as their 3rd string QB, and their option type QB listed as their backup QB so he could go in and out of the game.

 

I don't think it is realistic for Ben to come off unless he is injured. And Dobbs doesn't have the elite talent to be a difference maker.

 

I like our chances with Dobbs than I would the situation last year where the Broncos had to start a WR to play NFL Quarterback.

That did not pan out so well for Denver.

Dobbs should be good for the practice squad, if he get plucked by another team so be it. I doubt he does.

 

Dobbs will be around in some fashion if possible this year. He is the guy Ben goes to on the sideline.

 

We gone through this time and time again. Any scenario where you are using Dobbs as a short yardage QB or a gadget wildcat QB is wasting valuable time and resources with little upside. They would need to script 15-20 plays for each game that cover a wide variety of looks to avoid a Stephan Logan revisited situation. That's 15-20 plays where 1st string players have to not practice with the starting QB and practice with the PS quarterback for a situation that might not come up in the game. Look at the Saints and Tysom Hill every year his effectiveness was less and less.

 

We have to come up with something different on 3rd and short this year.

Fix This:
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports...arris-ben-roethlisberger/stories/202108240025
Their efficiency in third- or fourth-and-short was horrendous at minus 30%, putting them ahead of only Denver.


So that is 2nd to dead last in converting 3rd and short with Ben last year.

 

We've been discussing Dobbs as an RPO option since Dobbs was drafted. We still haven't put in a RPO, so the chances of this happening are Zero.

 

Didn’t we actually do it last year?

 

I got a headache.
Any time You take Your Starting Qb off the field is wrong. Why don't you just put up a sign 2 tell the other team what's next.

 

Taysom Hills effectiveness was great!

 

My Friend I thought You said Playoffs, and SB....matter. How many of those did T. Hill help them get. IMO. It... one is a bad look 2 take your starter out, and two, it let's the other team kinda know what's up.
Now if You can do it , and keep Your starter in while you run these things highly more effective. Like our old , H. Ward, or Randle plays.
JMO

 

This.

The potential for not having a QB under center is real. The Broncos situation last season where they had a practice squad WR under center because of no available QB's is too scary to ignore. I think having 4 QB's is prudent considering what we're dealing with.

 

Early on it was great because it wasn't something anyone had seen them do and SP is a heck of an offensive coach and innovator but it began to be obvious what they were gonna do any time Hill came in the game. It would be the same with Dobbs if all they had him do was QB keepers for 1st downs. Only way it's an effective plan is if the defense has to play it completely honest.

 

How many development projects do you want to keep at QB? You got Mason and Haskins, why do you need an older guy, with less actual experience and frankly less upside? Keep someone from a position of need on the PS, not Dobbs.

 

They're still remembering two years ago when our 4th string QB had to start half the season.

They don't think Ben will last. They know Mason sucks, and Haskins is an unkown.

 

The biggest problem last year in short yardage situations was Ben.

He just refused to move at all, wouldn't go forward for the sneak, wouldn't go backward for the play action pass, wouldn't go to the left or the right for the roll out. He just wanted to stand there in the shotgun formation and throw the quick pass.

With Dobbs you have a Joystick that is capable of moving in all directions to pick up that 1 or 2 yards on 3rd and 4th down.

 

The Steelers have had this joystick for most of the last 4 yrs, and they barely use it. Why are they gonna start now? I know, I know, Matt Canada and his dazzlng cosmic offense. But Matt was here last year too. And Dobbs was inactive in 16 of the 17 games they played.

 

I am not believing anything until the Buffalo game. If there is going to be a big change coming it starts with Buffalo. If we are going to throw a big wrinkle into the offense, like Dobbs running the wildcat, it will not show up until the Buffalo game where the Steelers will need every trick in their bag to get a win.

I think last year for the first few games we did get a glimpse at Canada's offense, and then Ben decided to just stop running it. Hopefully this year things will be different.

---Dobbs could be the answer to Mike Tomlin's QB comments..... "“You can assume whatever it is you want, but it may be wrong,”"

 

I think there is a chance we might see an appearance of the wildcat with Harris though.

 

offense is different this year w Najee and an emerging Freiermuth , if offensive line can fulfill their "more aggresive" style and be better, check that, a lot better than last year, than maybe our short yardage offense will be just fine w Ben only, so that wld eliminate Dobbs speculation as a Hill alternate in short yardage, good idea to confuse defenses but if we can be effective in short yardage w new weapons on offense and an improved o-line, it wont be needed

 

How could you forget Josh’s scintillating 4/5 for 2 yds passing performance vs Cle?

 

ok, if ur going there how cld you forget:

Haskins 3-5 33yrd and 1 pick against Vikings

or 9-17 107 yrd 3 picks against the Giants (thats one interception every three throws)

(stats available on ESPN)

 

If the Wildcat is in Canada’s bag o’tricks, the guy to run it with is Jaylen Samuels, not Josh Dobbs. Jaylen has actually run it in the NFL and is a better rusher than Dobbs, has a higher career passing rating and can catch passes too.