Implications of Brady beating NFL

Does this mean every player in the past and future who gets suspended with no evidence can take the NFL to court?

Maybe this means no more suspensions without "smoking gun" evidence.

Ben might be able to sue for his past suspension.

 

Personally not sure how the judge can over-rule the CBA which all but one team signed... So does this ruling make the CBA null and void??? Just makes me sick and pissed off because in my opinion if this is any other player or organization I am not sure this gets over-turned.

Tired of the Pats and their cheating ways and how they get away with murder and face zero consequences time and time again... Hate that organization!

 

So...how does this affect the penalties against Kraft and the loss of draft picks...? Does he fight it also now?

 

i have a feeling Ben wants to leave it in the past.

 

A better question is do the owners take this, or do they tear up the CBA and put the screws to the players to accept discipline without any right to due process?

 

There has to be some blowback on this. Why even have the CBA then? This has made the NFL look like a bunch of fools. Either Goodell should step down or they need to take the ability to appeal out of the next CBA.

 

The NFL has to appeal this right?

 

At face value to a fan, it would seem that Goodell (or any commissioner) would have no basis for punishment without "adequate" evidence.... which would basically eliminate the need for a commissioner. The personal conduct or conduct detrimental to a team / image..... would be thrown out along with the CBA. Maybe I'm overreacting, but it seems strange that this judge would appear to hold the NFL to criminal type evidence standards, when there is a written CBA allowing ambiguity and judgement calls.

 

Aside from the Steelers getting whipped in week 1? Just another example of big money paying their way out of justice. There are only so many ego-maniacs like Brady that will that their cases to court, but for those who do, I guess there's a precedence now.

 

Oh yeah...Goodell made his own bed by burning the Spygate evidence, so Brady learned from that and destroyed his cell phone...another good example set...destroy the evidence and you get off scott free...

 

I agree. Judges don't like overruling CBAS for this very reason. Thus sets up a dangerous president for the CBA moving forward.

 

Ben should try to get those 4 game checks back.

 

Yeah, exactly. Brady was suspended for failure to cooperate, which tarnished the league's image and is a punishable offense if deemed worthy, legitimatized by the CBA. How can that be overturned?

If anything good comes of this, it's that the whole "protect the shield" style of punishment gets thrown out. Effin' Brady...I hate him even more now.

 

The bigger issue is our court system is already beyond busy. Now we get NFL players who are upset they got busted for whatever suddenly going to court to fight it. Do we really need our tax dollars wasted by these guys and their petty grievances? Should be interesting to see how this really plays out in terms of the bigger issue. We lose two guys for getting nailed for pot, something they did outside of the game and yet the team that consistently cheats their way to victories by illegal filming, stealing signs, or deflating game balls to help the QB with grip pressure continues to get a pass and can play.

I guess the judge is saying as long as you are cheating within the game it is all good!

 

If the Peterson case is any judge of how these things go I would think that Goodell can immediately move to disregard the court desicion and place the player on suspension via the powers granted him by the CBA until they are ready to appeal

 

I guess cheaters do win.

 

Yeah, that's the moral of the story. Hey kids take note...

 

Yeah, that's the moral of the story. Hey kids take note...

 

Aside from players issues, I envision two things:

Owners will loose faith in Goodell.

Kraft will feel the wrath of 31 other owners.

 

In criminal cases you can be prosecuted for destroying evidence. In fact I think in any legal matter you can be prosecuted for destroying evidence. So I'm curious as to why in this case it is ok for Brady to destroy evidence. I think that basis alone gives the NFL a strong case in an appeal.

 

maybe tom tom won't get all those cheap calls for hits on the qb now.

 

BOTH parties
act holier than thou and i feel this dog fight is not over yet

 

This is what concerns me:

The NFL suspended him under the burden of proof needed for civil cases.

Brady, his team of lawyers, and the judge, proceeded as though this were a criminal case.

The NFL has no subpoena power; so why were they being asked to provide "evidence" that goes beyond what they could legally produce?

 

Because it wasn't a "criminal case."