Ike Looked SUPER tonight

With constant over the top help But,seriously he did make a couple plays tonight and NO Penalties!
What do we do though when we play a team that has more than 1 receiver who can make plays?

 

I HONESTLY wonder if the flak that Ike caught this week really sorta lit a fire in his belly? I also wonder the same about the D. We obviously can only speculate but I just wonder.

 

Harumph!

 

Can somebody explain to me what Cincy OC may have been thinking?
You have an all world receiver and target him maybe 3 times? They get paid lots of money
to do this?

 

I think Ike was outstanding tonight!! He had some great plays and, even on the TD, he was THERE- missed it by a foot.

 

Yep, give credit when it's due. And you're right, he played that TD pretty well. Was just a millisecond off on that one. I think feeling all of the heat from the previous week light a bit of a fire under him. Plus he did get some help over the top too, but still....good job Ike.

 

I have to give him credit. He did a good job last night. I was just especially happy to see that there were no PI calls.

 

did you watch the game ? , somehow dalton was afraid to hit green because the safety over the top , but beside one good play every other time ike was burnt badly . the 3rd down when dalton throw high he was at 5 meters , and in the same drive when they run two times both of them green was open for short yardage . now let's hope they keep help him , but plaing great is another story , lewis played good game

 

This is what they call supposition lol

How do you Dalton opted not to go Ikes direction because of the safety?

Bman

 

they were a one dimensional pass team and ike knew he had help over the top all night. take that game with a grain of salt. we also could put pressure up the middle on a rookie undersized center. that helped everything else.

 

because in the last two losses he had several intercepts and he was afraid to have more (my supposition , )

 

Well I personally think Ikes coverage was adequate enough to keep Dalton from throwing his way.. Everybody likes to jump on Ike but he redeemed himself in my eyes..

 

Me, too...and, yes I watched the game

 

Ike has definetly lost a step and thats why we are seeing him grab so much, but he looked good last night. maybe they found something by letting the safeties cover over the top to help the CB's.

Dalton does get rid of the ball fast and i think that hurt Cincy last night. the biggest problem the Steelers secondary has is covering for more than a few seconds. they can cover the initial move, but when the wr improvises they are lost. Dalton was getting the ball out so quick so he wouldnt get sacked, his wr's had no time to break down the secondary.

 

I think Ike better give Lewis a pat on the back cause that long slant play that Green did with Ike on that back side would of been a TD but thank god Lewis was on the underside to swat the ball away.

 

I don't see how Ike was good. He was out of position on almost every throw that went to AJG. Dalton didn't throw much to AJG because he was doubled all night long. If it was just Ike, AJG would have had a lot more yards and at least 1 more TD.

Great, Ike was close on that TD to AJG, but it was a slant pass, of course Ike was close. It would be hard not to be close on a slant, and last time I checked, being close doesn't stop AJG from scoring against us.

I don't think Ike played terrible, but he didn't play good either. He was somewhere between bad and ordinary. The double coverage and Dalton's inaccuracy is what really shut down AJG.

 

AJ was targeted 3 times and had 1 reception for a TD. So you're being critical of Ike "supposedly" being out of position 3 times and allowing only 1 reception? Of course it was a TD so it was an important reception but seems a bit bitter to not give him any credit for at least helping shutdown AJ. Especially after last weeks game.

 

He was targetted 6 times. 2 of those targets Ike got beat for TD's on. Another one Dalton threw it too high, although AJG still almost came down with it. Ike did defend 1 of the passes thrown towards AJG.

I don't think I'm being overly critical at all. If not for Lewis, Ike would have given up 2 TD's. How is that a good performance, especially on only 6 targets?

 

You're right, it was 6 targets. My mistake.

But he still helped hold AJ Green to just 1 reception. Which isn't an easy task. I honestly was expecting a nightmare game from Ike after last week so i'll give him credit.

 

I didnt think Ike did anything special, give any corner safety help and they can cover a receiver, especialy a receiver who isnt being thrown too, when Ike had to show up and knock a TD pass down he blew it, so if you all want to rave about Ike go right ahead and do so, but he didnt prove anything in this game to me: Let me see him do something in these remaining games when he is singled up with a teams best receiver and he's on his own again, based on past games he will be the same old Ike: This game proved nothing other than he needed help, but when a team has two good receivers lets watch him perform at a high level singled up, so far he hasnts done it, and I doubt if he ever will...If you want to see what a SUPER top corner looks like it was on display last night when the Bears had Tillman singled up on the Lions Calvin Johnson last night, Tillman dominated Johnson and if Ike had to cover singled up on Johnson no doubt johnson would have had at least two TDs and Ike would have had about 4 PIs...

 

You're right, it was 6 targets. My mistake.

But he still helped hold AJ Green to just 1 reception. Which isn't an easy task. I honestly was expecting a nightmare game from Ike after last week so i'll give him credit.[/quote:3fh47goy]

I get that he helped limit AJG, but he was directly responsible for 1 TD, and if not for Lewis, would have been badly out of position on another TD. He was also out of position on another throw where Dalton overthrew AJG. I will give him credit for defending 1 pass.

Most CB's in the league can help shut down a WR if they have help over the top from a safety. Even Calvin looks ordinary when he's doubled and the QB isn't playing well, which is what happened with Dalton and AJG.

I just don't know how he can be described as super when he gave up 1 TD, would have given up another if not for Lewis, and only defended 1 pass?

 

I get that he helped limit AJG, but he was directly responsible for 1 TD, and if not for Lewis, would have been badly out of position on another TD. He was also out of position on another throw where Dalton overthrew AJG. I will give him credit for defending 1 pass.

Most CB's in the league can help shut down a WR if they have help over the top from a safety. Even Calvin looks ordinary when he's doubled and the QB isn't playing well, which is what happened with Dalton and AJG.

I just don't know how he can be described as super when he gave up 1 TD, would have given up another if not for Lewis, and only defended 1 pass?[/quote:2yd3bpoq]

I'll admit "super" wouldn't be my choice of words to describe his play but I was happy with what I saw. I guess me not having much faith in him being able to cover Green AT ALL is why i'm satisfied with how he did.

It could have been so much worse than what it was.

 

Guy's YA' ALL (That's southern for youns) gotta remember. Dbacks have bad games once in a while. Those of you who are old enough to remember Rod Woodson getting burnt every once in a while and also have a bad game, got to remember he always bounced back

 

once in a while ? basically everytime is target is out of position or grabbing , he was saved last season when qbs were targetting gay , when they start to go in his direction the result was the same (denver plaloffs denver this year oakland tennesee ..)