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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Mar 3, 2021.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Some teams with a lot of cap space are going to make out like bandits.

    I’m dreading our own cut list, blood bath. At the same time, wish they’d just get on with it, tired of the wait. Still haven’t even completed reworking Bens contract. Is it happening or not.

     
  2. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    IMO this is a very annoying time to be a Steeler fan. It's probably a 50/50 split among fans with the Ben issue. We do not have a mobile QB with Ben and unless we have the old Washington "Hogs" as our O-line he will hurt us. Other side of coin is a lot of us don't think we have a replacement and having Ben under center will at least give us a chance in games.

    QB's in general hurt teams cap space. It's tough as hell to fill all the spots we need filled and if we are being honest the AFC North is no cake walk anymore. I use to only worry about Ravens but Bengals and Browns are part of the show now.
     
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  3. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Juju, Hilton and Dupree are gone.
     
  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Also some will over pay for little return in that investment.
    We see teams do this all the time.
    Have Faith.
     
  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    North Bro.
    We haven't been Central in a coons age.
     
  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    You believe all 3??
     
  7. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Yeah.
     
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  8. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    Keeping my fingers crossed on Dupree. Injury probably decreased his value a bit.
     
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  9. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    Means there were will be plenty of opportunities for us also.
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    With what money?
     
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  11. Seven4Steel

    Seven4Steel Well-Known Member

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    Steeler fans are wading into the deep end of the pool. We've been cruising through the Ben era with enough talent to give us a shot every year. We've done little with it, but there weren't any Ben years that you could look at and think we shouldn't be relevant in the post-season. Injuries and bad luck always can derail a positive season, but we've been the cream of the crop for a long, long time.

    Now, we're not relevant. And we're on the precipice of transitioning to a mediocre team with little prospect of turning it around any time soon. Luck will be our most prized possession for the foreseeable future.
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    A little bit of luck helps most teams. :shrug:
     
  13. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    It might have, but some still have projected a 12 million plus one year deal. Of course it is all speculation, but there are enough teams with money that might be willing to pay that.
     
  14. burghfan58

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    I agree that QBs can do a lot of damage to teams cap space. When exactly is the last time you saw the highest paid QB in the league win a Super Bowl. I believe Patrick Mahomes is currently the highest paid, but that was after he won a Super Bowl. We will see how that pans out over the next few seasons. In the AFC North for example, Joe Flacco was a top 3 highest paid after winning the Super Bowl, but fell off the next few seasons. I think any time a team cash straps themselves to a QB, it minimizes the opportunity to win a Super Bowl. I know I have said it before, but as much as everyone loved to hate Brady as a Patriot, he was never the highest paid QB. He sacrificed that title in pursuit of championship titles. I think there should be a cap on positions. If you are good enough, you can make up the additional salary on endorsement deals. If your play declines, then you lost the endorsement deals.
     
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  15. Seven4Steel

    Seven4Steel Well-Known Member

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    Great point. But it's not just the QB that straps a team to "pay vs. production" deficit. Granted, you're largest salary is usually the QB. But championships do not come to teams selling out for one or two skilled position players. Building a team with a solid foundation and skilled position players who buy in, and fit in, to scheme and possess a "team first" mentality are best equipped to compete for a championship.
     
  16. Seven4Steel

    Seven4Steel Well-Known Member

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    Well sure. A little luck helps anyone. My point about luck was that we're going to have to get lucky with our additions to this roster. Every addition is a crap shoot. We didn't know what we were actually going to get out of Minkah in terms of production. We got lucky. And now we're going to be looking for a new QB and other replacements for players already established on both sides of the ball. Luck is going to determine the success of those additions far above scouting or tangibles.
     
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  17. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    Who is on the chopping block for the Steelers?

    Some of the obvious candidates are Haden $7m, Decastro $8.75m :eek:, Ebron $6m and Vince $4m

    Some lesser potential cuts are Derek Watt and Chris Boswell at about $1.5m each.

    They will extend / restructure some of the above rather than cut of course. All depends on the final cap. I hate the thought of cutting any of those guys really.
     
  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Those aren't cuts, those 3 are free agents :shrug:.
     
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  19. SteelerGlenn

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    Actually it’s about 68%-32%. At least on this site.
     
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  20. SteelerGlenn

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    You don’t think they’re going to make some moves to free up some cap space?
     
  21. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Which means... they're gone.
     
  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    They aren’t going to be big players, they never are, certainly won’t be this year. Could be like 2010 and 2011 when they signed 1 bargain basement FA both offseason’s.
     
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  23. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    They already have made moves. There are only so many moves they can make. These moves screw us in future years too. Next year can will cost us over 17 mil. towards the cap. Tuitt if they feel his will be more then that or as much. Nelson is still the guy I'd cut. 8 mil.. Haden has two years left, Nelson only one. Haden is the better player. :cool:
     
  24. Maddog78

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    Could keep all of them if they'd part ways with the Over The Hill Gang, but they're going to make one last futile run AND mortgage their future to do so.

    This is a terrible way to build a team.
     
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  25. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    Wait until he finds out we're not playing the Oilers this year.
     
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