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Free Agency Frustrating For Steeler Fans

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steeltown73, Mar 15, 2015.

  1. freakfontana

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    yes it's not definitive but at the moment the contribution is that
     
  2. lloyddestroy

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    It is NOT a mutually exclusive, one way or the other, type of thing. Just because the Skins fail in their heavy FA signing mode does not mean the Steelers wouldn't be a better team IF they signed a few, key FA, especially in a year where we have so many holes on D. Last year, the Pats signed some key FAs in Revis and Browner, how did that work out for them? World champions. The Steelers complete, non action, sleeping at the wheel in FA is not helping this team improve. We are super weak at OLB, CB and SS. Way too weak to be napping in the front office.
     
  3. SteelerGlenn

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    Doubt they are napping in the front office, I mean with the budget they have doubt they could afford cots.
     
  4. lloyddestroy

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    They could lean back in their phat leather chairs and out feet on desk.. :lolol:
     
  5. strummerfan

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    Once again, it doesn't bother me at all. We've never gone for big name free agents and it works very well for us. For every team that made a successful move like the pats did last year there are several teams that fail in an epic fashion. The Steelers will do what they've always done. Rebuild through the draft and sprinkle with Farrior and Clark type free agents. I like the Steeler way. If you don't feel free to jump ship at anytime.
     
  6. lloyddestroy

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    Again, you are treating it like it is mutually exclusive: Just because signing wildly in FA is unwise, does not mean the only other option is to do NOTHING. Also, there is a bit of a difference of not signing barely any free agents when your D consists of Aaron Smith, Hampton, Keisel, Woodley, Timmons, Harrison, Ike, Troy, Clark in their prime vs. when you have a team with NO known good players at OLB, NT, CB, safety. When your roster is stacked with probowlers all over, then fine, you don't need to do much in FA. But that is not where we are. To refuse to sign a few solid players, that will cost some $, when a team is as thin as this, is foolish and cheap.
     
  7. freakfontana

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    the problem is we don't even have the money , so if our roster is this something went wrong .....read overpayd below average players
     
  8. strummerfan

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    Once again. I LIKE THE STEELERS WAY! Get it through your head. Quit trying to convince me otherwise. Go stand in front of a mirror if you really feel the need to spew.
     
  9. strummerfan

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    We have plenty of money to do things the Steeler way. The Lloyd way is for teams without franchise QB's and it's also the way of failure.
     
  10. SteelerGlenn

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    How can you be a diehard fan/supporter of the team and question and complain about most every move/decision they make?
    Isn't the reason a person roots for/ supports a team is because they believe in and support the decisions they make and the way they preform?

    Seems if you're that frustrated and don't agree with they way a certain team does things you'd root for a team that you share the same philosophy with?
     
  11. PWP

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    I liked the Steeler way I think a lot on here did . I also think a lot realize the FA market is changing . And a lot would just like the Team to have the money to sign guys when it is desperately needed . The build by draft can not be the only way Teams must become multiple in the approach .
     
  12. lloyddestroy

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    Is that right. So tell me, is Tom Brady not a franchise QB? OK, there goes that theory. They added key free agents last year, how did that go? Oh, they won another Lombardi Trophy. So, what you got to say now? So, in your world Brady is not a franchise QB, and their way was one of failure, only if you define failure as winning a championship. OK, you make total sense!
     
  13. lloyddestroy

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    Thank you for providing logic to this thread.
     
  14. lloyddestroy

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    That is an additional problem. The "Steelers' way" has us constantly with no cap room, and it doesn't have to be that way, but since it is, it gives them the excuse to not sign any FAs.
     
  15. SteelerGlenn

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    We were actually pretty active in the FA market last season. This FA period is not over yet!
     
  16. strummerfan

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    Holy ****. Are you really this daft? Yes, the Patriots won a superbowl after signing a big name free agent. However, they were not in full rebuild mode like we are. It's not the way to build a team. Once we have the majority of the pieces in place then you go and add via free agency. JUst as the Steelers have always done.
     
  17. SteelerGlenn

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    They have plenty of cap space right now or at least they could quite easily if needed. I just don't see anyone that's worth breaking the bank over anyway.
     
  18. SteelerGlenn

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    You're spot on Strummer.
     
  19. lloyddestroy

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    Totally agree. We were more active than usual last year. So far this year, not so much.
     
  20. lloyddestroy

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    We are in a "full rebuild mode" with one of the best QBs in his prime, a top 3 RB in his prime, the best WR in the NFL in his prime, a young, OL that is getting good....and we are in a "full rebuild mode" right now? I will say this: Your and my definition of what a "full rebuild mode" is differs greatly.

    By the way, personal attacks are not encouraged here.
     
  21. SteelerGlenn

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    Who were we supposed to sign this FA period that could seriously help? I'm not talking about taking risks on players that have been oft injured, talking about proven guys that there's no doubt they would have made a world of difference.
     
  22. strummerfan

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    Hello is there anybody in there? We have a young offensive line because we've been building it through the draft. THe same for the wide receivers,running backs, and to some extent the tight ends. Although, we haven't found a long term replacement #1 there. Now look at the defense. THe DL is all new. ILB all new outside of timmons. OLB still a work in progress. CB a work in progress. Safeties, assuming that TP won't be back then they are all new.


    Instead of trying to play moderator, just report the post and let them do their job.
     
  23. SGSteeler

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    I understand what you are saying, but neither Darrelle Revis nor Brandon Browner are on the Patriots roster right now. Yes they won't the Super Bowl, but they just as easily could've lost in the playoffs and lost out on signing some other players that could help them in the long term. I think that is what the Steelers get hung up on. They don't want to sign big money mercenaries for a year.

    However... I do realize that we have about 5-6 years left of elite play for Big Ben, and wouldn't mind signing some guys to try to put us over the top in the short term so we can win another championship or two. What's wrong with swinging for the fences the next half decade and then bottoming out when Ben retires? We can cut the dead weight and keep the pieces that we feel can help us in our next run to the top.

    i guess what I'm trying to say is... I'm cool with the way we do things now. It will always keep us competitive. When we draft well we will stand a chance to win it all, and when we don't we will win about 7 or 8 games. Unless we miss horribly on our next starting QB, we will almost never be a top ten in the draft team using this method. But I also see the other side of the coin. If we sell out for the ship and we win one or two more, I could live with drafting top ten for a couple years and starting from ground zero.
     
  24. SteelerGlenn

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    We've been in rebuild mode the last couple years. I'd say we're still on the tail end of it. We're working on the defense right now and it might take this and next season to complete the core. The Steelers are not going to rebuild through Free agency. They're going to build through the draft and compliment with a FA or two.

    This is the way it's going to be, might as well accept it.
     
  25. TerribleTowelFlying

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    He's right, though. Let's make that job easier and just try to play nice. :)
     

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