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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Disco1981, Oct 1, 2019.

  1. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    See a lot of people praising this guy for the " game plan "...Uhhhhhhhhh, How in Gods name was Samuels not used for ONE snap the previous week?

    Could not run the ball at all...This is exactly how Samuels should have been used LAST week...Dude is truly a terrible Coach...* " Hey, I didn't play Samuels 1 snap last week, when I should have used him heavily....Lets give him a whirl this week for ****s and giggles"

    Great win...But this is the kind of incompetense that has plagued this squad for years... Absolutely no accountability on atrocious decisions
     
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  2. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    If you’re going to criticize him for not using Samuels last week, then he deserves credit for using him this week.

    You have to be consistent.
     
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  3. THREE RIVER SHIVER

    THREE RIVER SHIVER Well-Known Member

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    Yep...I sorta agree with ya.Talk about going from one extreme to another.
    Don't play the guy one week, then damn near feature him the next.
    Zero creativity in San Fran, Then run things I haven't seen in years or never.
    If this team cannot run the ball traditionally then I have no problem with dump offs to the backs.
    But not getting Samuels the ball in some fashion is foolish.
    The guy is slippery and deserves touches EVERY game.
     
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  4. Kreighoff

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    Did they secretly bring in another OC with a plan and some creativity to create a run game and protect a young QB with short safe throws. Seem's very suspicious.
     
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  5. 86WardsWay

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    I'm sure it has to do with Conners fumble at a crucial time that got Samuel his carries. I agree they should have used him the game before though. I pin that on MT. He's they head coach and the buck stops with him. Not Fitchner.
     
  6. Spencer

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    I'd like to see a heavy dose of Samuels against the Ravens to see if he is the guy that can handle the job. The Ravens however are not the Bengals and they will be ready for the wildcat. Glad the wildcat worked but, I was never a fan of it.
    And again with this run game. 1 and 2 yards needed for a first down and they pitch the ball backwards instead of going toe to toe with the d line.
    Our offense can't run wide so why do they insist upon it ?
     
  7. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    I really liked what he did this week...But what warranted him not giving Samuels a snap the week before... Especially when Conner couldn't get past the los...

    Imo there is a common theme with our Coaches...Good Pre game Coaches, Terrible at in game adjustments
     
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  8. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    And actually...It was RB Coach Eddie Faulkner who incorporated the Wildcat into the game plan...So again no need to praise Fitchner
     
  9. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Fichtner needed to come up with an actual game plan. Pulled out all the stops in a desperate situation. This game plan will not work against the crows. Nice start against the lowly bungles but we were in the same boat at game time. Different story this Sunday
     
  10. Formerscribe

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    I agree that Samuels should have gotten the ball more against the 49ers, but people seem to be forgetting that the offensive line got its collective ass kicked most of the day in San Francisco. That makes a difference, too.

    Fichter had a good plan Monday night. It worked. Now he has to come up with something a little different for the Ravens, because that same crap isn't going to work against a better team. Give the guy a little credit for a job well done in the win and let's see what he comes up with next. It's not as if he has many years of failure behind him like Butler.
     
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  11. BK99

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    I'm hoping what we saw was perhaps some coaches waking up a little. My biggest fear is they will try and replicate the exact same thing against the ratbirds and when they are ready for it there won't be a plan B. The coaching staff has historically fallen short when it comes to contingency plans when teams know what the offense is going to do and can counter it.

    How many times did we lose or come close to losing to those sub .500 teams because they had us figured out? We have all watched those games in which receivers are blanketed in coverage and running lanes don't exist. Then we come out after the half and start throwing the desperation bombs when the game plan isn't working because they never had a plan B.

    I commend the coaching effort on the win, now let us see if they can game plan for each opponent. More importantly, let us see if the original game plan isn't working that they have an option B and maybe even a C. Perhaps they will coach with some creativity but I apologize for not being too optimistic as this was a game against a terrible team, they need to do this against the ratbirds coming up.
     
  12. Stone

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    Fichtner has to be consistent! Just because he had a good game plan doesn't excuse his previous abysmal game plans. Good coaches have a good game plan every week. Good coaches can change a bad game plan during a game.
     
  13. Formerscribe

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    Nobody is excusing previous failures. What some of us are saying is it is time to give Fichtner and the rest of the coaches credit for doing what they should have been doing all along, which is coming up with game plans that fit the opponent.
     
  14. Stone

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    I know, it's just a little hard to get excited about a guy, who is supposedly one of the best 32 offensive minds in the world, finally doing his job:smiley1:
     
  15. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    You lose one of the best NFL running backs last year.
    You lose one of the best NFL receivers during the off season.
    You lose a HOF fame Super Bowl winning QB for the season.

    The talent level (for better or worse) as dropped off the cliff.

    Randy is dealing with out lot of young guys (outside of the o-line) many who haven't ever played much together.

    If I had to fault Randy for one thing, he needs to start let Mason throwing it further down field. Hopefully he will soon.

    I'm hoping once McDonald returns we can run some double tights, that might help the run game a little.
     
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  16. Stone

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    You run the same five plays over and over and over again and you just can't figure out why it isn't working:smiley1:

    I cut it and I cut it, and it's still too short!:smiley1:
     
  17. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    3 days of prep before having to travel across the country with a one year qb. very easy to explain.:cool:
     
  18. Formerscribe

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    That's fair. I wouldn't say we should be excited, but it is a positive sign. I'm going with cautiously optimistic that it was a step in the right direction rather than an aberration.

    Fichtner's job got a lot tougher when Roethlisberger went down. He has to be far more creative in designing plays to create offense, but he's also got more freedom. As I already mentioned, I just hope it is the start of a pattern rather than a one-time adjustment. if he thinks he can just do more of the same against the Ravens, Sunday is going to suck.
     
  19. Stone

    Stone Well-Known Member

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    This week will tell us exactly what Fuchtner is or isn't:hmm:
     
  20. strummerfan

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    I have zero problems with constructive criticism etc, but please don’t make **** up to push your agenda. It’s too easy to disprove and it wastes time. FYI Samuels had 14 or 16 snaps last week. I’m sure if we had actually been able to convert 3rd downs and get into a rhythm offensively that number would have gone up.
     
  21. pjgruden

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    Maybe I'm wrong, but if I was Fichtner I'd be excited. I think we can all agree that he probably had minimum input with Ben running the offense. Now that he has Mason, he can be truly creative and put all kinds of interesting things together. If I were him I'd watch some Rams and Chiefs films and see what he can design based off of what they run.
     
  22. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry...0 carries... Happy
     

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