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Dwayne Haskins and his new wife get into a dispute

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Jul 14, 2021.

  1. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Can't believe all of these posts on a future former player who'll be probably joining our other former KMart special 1st round QB project in the CFL. Definition of Stupid: A player who is on the cusp of being a total failure as a 1st round pick, cut from the team that drafted him, then by some miracle gets on to another team, and then proceeds to get into situations that creates bad press (again) for himself and the team that gave him another opportunity. Some things you just can't fix. JMO>
     
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  2. AskQuestionsLater

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    I mean... guys....


    If Haskins really did anything, Pittsburgh would have cut him by now. Considering that is not the case, he is still on the team. However and again, that is not the biggest issue here.


    Domestic Violence is far more taxing on one's psyche than even the victims are willing to admit. That is the biggest point within the aftermath of this. I just hope Haskins is doing okay mentally and emotionally just as much as he is physically.
     
  3. Formerscribe

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    That is a good point. I'm just not convinced that he didn't do anything. The report of another altercation earlier in the evening has me questioning the idea that Haskins was just an innocent victim in all this.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’m guessing when a girl gets raped and is dressed the way Haskins wife is in this thread you say, “no woman deserves to be raped but when you dress like that…”

    Whats the pattern? I asked you to elaborate on his wife’s bad behavior, you didn’t abd as far as I know, the only other incident was the covid thing last season with Haskins. You make it sound like he is AB.

    You got nothing, this is such a bad argument by you that I am surprised you are the one making it.
     
  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I've got the report of Haskins being involved in another altercation earlier in the day, one the wife supposedly broke up. Maybe it is all her, but you are just assuming that in service of your need to exonerate him.

    Your response to this is ridiculous. I have written absolutely nothing that suggests he deserved to be assaulted. Your mischaracterization of my point is tiresome and unfair. What I am saying is that the guy has a history of poor decisions and maybe he should have the sense to be laying low at home and focusing on getting ready for the upcoming season. I don't expect most players to adhere to those standards, but given his reputation for failing to prepare properly and the way he blew his shot in Washington, the intelligent response probably would have been to stay out of Las Vegas. I never referenced a history of bad behavior by the wife, but if she really did assault her husband, do you think she was a perfect angel before that?

    I'm not comparing him to Brown at all. He isn't even close, but he has made plenty of bad decisions. Some are football-related. See the reports of him failing to prepare for games while with Washington. The Football Team didn't cut him loose due to one incident.

    Edit: To be clear, I have never nor would I ever suggest that the way a woman is dressed has anything to do with her being raped. For you to suggest I would write, say, or think otherwise was out of line.
     
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  6. CK 13

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    Your right. I shouldn't have found levity in the situation.

    It took two to tango in this incident. I feel he is not innocent and should not have put himself in that position although from reports he didn't retaliate physically. The mental beating that individuals give each other is obviously the issue here.

    The shame of it is that he is fighting to stay in the league. Keep your nose clean. Don't do dumb $hit!

    Hopefully both get needed help.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

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    I was making a point that you are victim blaming, “he must have done something to deserve that.”

    What happened could have happened in Pittsburgh, had nothing to do with Vegas. It’s ridiculous to suggest he should be laying low at home.

    Failing to prepare for games isn’t in the same realm of making poor decisions like he did with Covid which to my knowledge is the only thing he has done, that is not a pattern.
     
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  8. PWP

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    Yep I am all for giving the kid a break as the Team even stated they didn't think he was NFL ready at draft time .. The kid still has a chance to become a good NFL QB if he applies himself ..I would rather read that he got hit in the mouth than he refuses to study film and learn his craft..
     
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  9. blackandgoldpatrol

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  10. Formerscribe

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    No, it would be victim-blaming if I claimed that he must have done something to deserve that punch in the mouth. I wrote no such thing. Your analogy is inappropriate and unfair.

    If you don't understand the difference between Pittsburgh and Vegas in terms of circumstances and people's behavior, I really don't know what to tell you.

    Actually, it is all part of a pattern of making poor decisions and not understanding the type of commitment necessary to be an NFL quarterback. Yes, the COVID thing was worse, but all of those things paint a picture of an immature, entitled athlete who should be able to spend one year focused on salvaging the career he nearly flushed down the toilet in Washington.
     
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  11. Blast Furnace

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    Are you for real??? It’s the same thing, you’re blaming Haskins “poor decision” for it, you said it yourself, he’s not victimless in this, your words. Guarantee you this, you wouldn’t be saying anything if it was him that punched her in the face, you wouldn’t be putting any onus on her and you know it.

    I know Vegas and Pittsburgh are different, the circumstances could have happened anywhere, apparently he ditched her, didn’t wait for her, you don’t think that could happen in Pittsburgh while out clubbing?

    It’s not a pattern of anything and I assure you the Steelers aren’t looking at it through the lens of a fan like that. Right now they are feeling justified for putting their faith in him because he didn’t crack her one back and handled it like an adult.
     
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  12. Maddog78

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    He's got one last chance to make something of himself in the NFL, two weeks away from camp, and he's out clubbing with his posse.

    I am rooting for him, but man, he just seems like a complete and utter dope.
     
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  13. SteelerGlenn

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    Oh look it's a pathetic Ravens fan trolling us.
     
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  14. Maddog78

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  15. Blast Furnace

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    I read that they were there to renew their wedding vows. Don’t know if that is true or not, might want to rethink those vows.
     
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  16. Seven4Steel

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    My daughter is still "involved" with a rookie who is heading to Colts' training camp and got to meet Michael Irvin at his pad in Dallas. Stuff like this scares the crap out of me. The kid seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, but he's not made the team yet. Making the final cut and becoming a legit NFL player has got to change you, maybe for the better, but maybe for the worse. And my daughter is a good kid, but she's got a temper and can let her emotions lead her before rational thought takes over. I don't know where she gets that from.

    Thing is, I can't say with all certainty that she wouldn't knock his teeth out if he really asked for it.

    It has been said already, it takes two to tango. They both have levels of blame in this. Kudos to him for not retaliating after it got physical. But that doesn't absolve him of his part in this.
     
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  17. Hanratty#5

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    I read Haskins request to Vanessa Chantal trying to get back the $20,000 in gifts that he bought her. It was so incoherent that it was almost unrecognizable as belonging to the English language. It explained a lot of why he has failed in the NFL, the poor guy is nearly illiterate.
     
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  18. Maddog78

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    Haskins better throw for five TD in the HOF game to prove he's worth the distractions.
     
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  19. Blast Furnace

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    I just don’t know what that is? Because they went to Vegas? To renew their vows?

    Even if Haskins ditched her for the worst reasons, he’s not responsible for her irrational and ****ing crazy response.
     
  20. OH Steeler Fan

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    I got a gut feeling that Haskins will be playing with Johnny Manziel before he ever sniffs being the Steelers starting QB.
     
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  21. Vox Ferrum

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    Read that as well. then just saw a blurb that he is planning to sue her(I did not read the article). As I did not read it will not comment on specifics, however the last thing he or the tams needs is distractions. If his intention is to continue to have hss head in the sewer his tenure here will be very short.
     
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  22. Seven4Steel

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    He's definitely not responsible for her response. She's got to own that. But we don't know their history and her breaking point. I haven't followed him or his history, so is this the first domestic dispute he's been in publicly? I'm not talking about getting into fights with strangers at a bar or dudes you have a beef with. I'm talking about with women or when drugs or weapons were involved.

    If this is his first real domestic type altercation, then frankly, he's done a good job to steer clear of that kind of drama. And he and the Mrs. haven't had a history of this either, publicly. So maybe he hasn't been treating her right for a long time, or treating her the way she wanted to be treated, and something put her over the edge. Have relationships come back from more than that? Yes. Can theirs? Depends.

    I just think there is a LOT behind the scenes that we won't ever know about. This will end up being another situation viewed at the surface without ever seeing what's going on below.

    Just thinking about my daughter, if her fella makes a commitment to her AFTER making the team and then deceives her, lies to her, cheats on her, or puts her in a dangerous situation because he's selfish and immature, then I hope she knocks ALL his teeth out. People can talk about domestic violence all they want, and yes, it's a serious issue. But when it comes to my daughter and her safety and well-being, she can't hit him hard enough if he deserves it. I wonder if Haskins' father-in-law is thinking the same thing?
     
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  23. Formerscribe

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    No, it isn't the same thing. I explained why. You just refuse to see it.

    To put it simply. He deserves another hit to his reputation. He did not deserve to be assaulted.

    Ditching her while away from home is worse than doing it at home. Do you not get that? If that story is true, it was really stupid behavior on his part. It does not in any way mean that he deserves to be assaulted, but it is still stupid. It is the same careless, entitled attitude that was apparently a problem in Washington.
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    Didn't they just get married earlier this year?
     
  25. Blast Furnace

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    Your explanation is bogus. No one ever absolves the abuser entirely, it’s the “he/she didn’t deserve that BUT…” It’s exactly what you are doing, stop doubling down on that nonsense.

    We don’t have enough details on why he did that, as you mentioned, they were arguing earlier in the night, maybe he felt it was best they cool off apart from each other. It doesn’t matter what the reason was, though, her response to the situation was completely irrational, if she behaved like a normal human being and not some crazed ***** from hell, we aren’t talking about this. Are you really holding people to that high of standards to scrutinize their every decision.

    I thought so, too. I don’t know the reason for renewing them now.
     
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