Bud Dupree is the perfect candidate for a one-year tag

When he got his chance to play it's not too much to ask to flash once in awhile.

 

4 snaps a game? OK

 

With the market now set, you saying Bud will sign a contract spreading that 15.8 over 3 years? That's acceptable.

 

Let's just end this cause all we are gonna do is go back and forth and honestly I don't really enjoy reading most of your stuff. You never try to see things the other persons way. Case in point you want to ding Frackell for only having one good season yet what has Bud had......one good season. Also you are not looking at what would be able to do on this team. If we got 3/4 % from frackell of what Bud gave us last year at that discounted price and being able to use the extra money to improve other area's, would that be so bad? But you won't look at that you only think Bud will have another good year where is that proof? He only had one good season, he was the whipping boy around here for years, what am I missing?

 

Huh?

 

You are wrong Vicki Vallencourt!!!!!!!

PS


THANKS BUD!!!!!!!!!

 

I’m never wrrrr.....wrrro.wwrrrr.....signed Arthur Fonzarelli

 

Man I was agreeing with 6 and then you had to go and post this and make me see it differently......what the hell, lol!

 

You should know better ......

 

Dupree had always shown flashes. He just didn't do it consistently enough.

All Adeniyi did when he was in there last year was get stonewalled by opposing pass blockers pretty much every time he was on the field.

 

That's the problem. They didn't have basically the same statistics. They also don't have the same underlying skills.

Fackrell wasn't even an every-down player during his career year in 2018. He started only seven games and had a total of 42 tackles to go with 10.5 sacks. He has nine starts and 16.5 sacks in his NFL career. This past season, he was basically Anthony Chickillo, but worse.

Bud Dupree has started 55 games in the NFL. If you just want to measure the last four years, when both guys were active. Dupree has 51 starts in that time. He has started all but two of the Steelers' games the last three seasons. Again, this is in comparison with a guy who has nine starts in four seasons.

Dupree had 11.5 sacks and 68 tackles in his career year. That he was good enough to be on the field all the time is a positive in his favor. I know the argument will be that Fackrell did more in fewer opportunities in 2018, but he clearly wasn't good enough to be out there more.

Dupree is a more complete player with a much better overall resume. He wasn't useless before last season. He was an average starter, a hell of a lot better than Fackrell.

Dupree also has superior talent. There is a reason he was a first-round draft pick, 22nd overall, and Fackrell went in the third round.

There is no absolute wrong or right at this point. There is just more likely and less likely. Dupree is more likely to be a much better player than Fackrell in 2020 because he has always had more talent and he has been far better as a pro.

 

So Dupree showed flashes his first 62 snaps? So you remember that vividly,huh? So determine Olas future in 62 snaps last year? Wow you missed your calling in life. So glad you weren’t calling the shots on Harrison back in the day.

 

Actually, there is a lot of difference. Dupree had started 39 games by the end of his fourth season. Fackrell has started nine. Also, Dupree wasn't coming off a fourth season in which he couldn't get off the bench.

Also, we're not comparing Dupree's first four seasons to Fackrell's first four. That is a manipulation designed to make Fackrell look better than he is in comparison. Where they are right now is Fackrell is coming off a year in which he was basically Chickillo, but worse, and Dupree just put together a year that was significantly better than Fackrell's best.

 

Did I say anything about Dupree's first 62 snaps? No. I didn't. Please don't make things up and claim that I wrote them.

Dupree and Adeniyi are going to be evaluated differently. Dupree was a first-round draft pick with tremendous physical tools. Adeniyi was undrafted.

I also never wrote that they should be giving up on Adeniyi. I didn't call for him to be cut. I certainly don't think trusting him to start in 2020 makes sense given how little he has shown, but some people can't stop dreaming about that 2018 preseason.

 

Hmmm ...never knew doing more with less opportunities was a bad thing. You got it all figured out. So is there a reason why Brady went in the 6th? Guys play above and below where they’re drafted all the time. You ever think the reason why Dupree was given such a long leash was because he was a 1st round pick. The point you keep missing is value. That is yet to be determined this year. Dupree needs to be almost 4x as effective as KF and that wouldn’t even tell the whole story because Dupree is playing with a All star cast and one of the best OLBs in all of football. It’s not a apples to apples argument. Dupree is much better set up to succeed than Fackrell or just about anyone else in the entire league because of his supporting cast .

 

Hence....one year wonder and unless you have a crystal ball he still is until proven otherwise.

 

There is little reason to believe Fackrell can even do 75 percent of what Dupree did last season.

I'm not dinging Fackrell for having only one good season. I'm pointing out that even that season wasn't that good. He started seven games and had only 42 tackles. He wasn't just bad his other seasons. He was useless. He was a a backup who did next to nothing.

Dupree was a whipping boy because he was a mediocre starter and that's not good enough for a first-round draft choice. He wasn't useless. His other seasons are much better than what Fackrell was in 2016, 2017 and 2019. It's not close.

His 2019 was better, too.

I'm sorry you don't like reading my posts. I'm not going to comment on what I think of yours because I'm sticking to the subject rather than making this personal.

 

You said Dupree “always “ showed flashes I assume that would mean in his first 62 snaps included, since “always” means always....so yeah you did say something about his first 62 snaps.

 

I'm not arguing the label because it doesn't mean much. You two are bringing up the comparison and I'm demonstrating the many ways in which Dupree is a superior player to Fackrell when you look at the entire resume and when you look at last season.

 

Considering Fackrell did 90% of what Dupree has done in 60% of his opportunities in THEIR career years so far. I would say there is at least a little reason to believe it. Why? Because he’s done it.....

 

Now you are really reaching. I said he has shown flashes throughout his career and you are trying very, very hard to twist that into a gotcha. I guess that works better than trying to take on my fact-based demonstration that Dupree is significantly better than Fackrell when you look at their entire resumes rather than cherry-picking whatever detail you can find.

 

We do. It's me. Thank you.

In case you needed me to back that up, I did a little research.

Dupree had a sack and two solo tackles in his first NFL game. He had 26 snaps that day. He also had a sack to go with three solos and an assist in his second game, during which he got 51 snaps.

Adeniyi is still looking for his first NFL sack.

 

Nope you said he” always” has shown flashes. Not my words...yours