brian urlacher

as much as I hate the "this and that player got cut, let's sign em" threads, I just couldn't help myself on this one.......... the bears cut brian urlacher..... now here is one player I wouldn't mind seeing next to Timmons... he's on the back end of his career, so he might just be somewhat affordable, and would be 3x's the player foote is at the position... the prospect of urlacher blitzing in our defense is just too much to resist.... the prospect of playing in a number 1 defense, and having a proven championship qb just might be enough to get a discount

 

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SteelerJJ that run was a thing of beauty. If I'm not mistaken that was Jerome's final 100 yard game of his career. It was a swampy/snowy day and the bus turned back the clock and played some Steelers football.


ANyway, no thanks on Urlacher. He's basically where Ray Lewis was the past few years. He's still a smart player that can defend the run game, but pretty much any TE in the league is going to abuse him in coverage. We just gave Larry Foote a decent contract. Not going to happen.

 

in all honesty, JB did that to alot of people. the bus was bigger than LB'ers. not that i want BU though. i think we are in better shape then first thought at ILB. they like rolle as the replacement for spence right now and they are discussing mcfadden as a guy capable of making the D calls possibly. then foote as the vet/lockeroom stability player. along with a draft pick and kion wilson here as another young depth player, we may be deeper then first thought. timmons we know is a stud and the cupboard is not bare by any means.

 

I'm surprised they cut him, tbh. I wonder if there is the same feelings amongst Bears fans that there was with us when Harrison was cut? Though Urlacher was perhaps more of a central figure to the Bears D over the years.

I'm tempted to agree with SBD - a few years ago, the prospect of having Urlacher here would have been awesome and unthinkable. Now... we need to be seeing younger guys step up. I would rather we re-signed Mortly Ivy.

 

Being from Chicago and having to watch "da bears" every Sunday I can honestly say that urlacher would not be a good pickup for the Steelers. The past couple years it has become so apparent that he does not have anywhere near the closing speed he used to have. RBs and TEs are now able to run away from him with ease. If all we needed was character and smarts on the field then I would say yes. but he is nowhere near the player he used to be. Also I doubt the steelers could afford him as he is still in the asking rnage of 6mil/yr and would not take a 2mil/yr deal from the bears.

 

Urlacher has been completely overrated for the past 4 years. No thank you!

 

No Way!!!! Wouldnt be a very smart move!

 

He wasnt cut. He was UFA.

 

Maybe Urlacher is saying he wants to go play for the Vikes or Pack so he can terrorize and give payback like JH wants to do by going to the rats. LOL. Bears fans probably having a discussion on their MB about that tainting his legacy. LMBO!

BTW, no thanks on Urlacher. We need to be getting younger, not digging up dinosaur bones.

 

Had we not just resigned Foote...I would have been interested...even with him losing a step....but Foote makes him redundant at this point.....I would look to McClain or draft another one.

HACK

 

He's another Woodley, he's injury prone.

 

Urlacher is looking for another payday he probably can't play on 3rd downs no thanks, the Steelers defense needs to get younger and faster not old and slower.

 

I think we need to get younger, not older on defense. NO THANKS!

Let's sink or swim with the young guys! It's time for them to step up.

 

Brian Urlacher is exactly 3 weeks younger than James Harrison. Didn't realize Urlacher will be 35, had no idea he was that old, where does the time go?

 

If we did anything, I'd rather re-sign Harrison than sign Urlacher.

 

Ah, good catch. Still, I'm still surprised at the Bears letting him go anywhere.

 

And just think that both of their legacy's could be saved if they just up and retire hometown style.

 

Legacies are what you make of them, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And in my opinion, anyone who thinks a legacy is tarnished because a player wants to keep playing football after his long-time team parts ways with him is a total and complete idiot. If you say they should sacrifice a "small" amount of money (more than I'll probably earn in my entire life) to be where they've been, that's an opinion, although it's certainly their right to choose what to do based on how many more millions of dollars they can get. If you say they should just stop their love and job because the past will change if they put on a different uniform in the future, I'm not even sure that qualifies as an opinion. It's too stupid.

 

I think what's idiotic and stupid is for someone like James Harrison, at the nudging of his agent I'm sure, to so significantly overestimate his value as a 35 year old linebacker with significant knee and back injuries and declining production, that he refuses to accept a 30% paycut (which now appears to be extremely generous) so he can go out and test the free agent market and leave the team and the defensive system that allowed him to build such a great legacy to begin with. I'm one of the "idiots" who believes that his legacy will be tarnished because of this miscalculation on his part.

 

You're talking about negotiating tactics and evaluating worth. He thought he could get more than what we offered, and it looks like he was probably wrong. You said it, it's a miscalculation. That's a different subject. I'm talking about people who think players are their toys and they should retire once their home team dumps them because it will hurt their fan feelings to see them in a different uniform. It's like people who said Jerry Rice should just retire instead of playing for Oakland, or Seattle, or Denver. Dude wanted to play, and could still make an NFL team, so let him play. He wasn't falling apart at the knees or from concussions. It was his life and it's what he wanted. It's selfish and stupid to say he should retire because he's no longer what he once was, or shouldn't play for any other team, or blah blah.

With James it's a little different because it's about money more than performance or Terrell Owens drama. We won't know if James comes away with more, less, or the same amount of money than what he would have got if he'd stayed. So let's just look at what he thought he was doing: leaving for more money. That's what almost every player does or would do. As a fan it's super easy to say you wouldn't for love of the team, but I think it would be very different if it was your bank account you were looking at. Not to mention, the "It's a business" attitude players have when it comes to money sounds terrible, but it's the same attitude the teams have. Loyalty only stretches so far on both ends, and that's usually not far at all. James left for more money. I'm assuming a percentage of that money has more to do with pride than cash. It sucks that it's happening and I hope he goes to a team I can tolerate, or better yet, come back. But whatever he does next year won't change what he did for the last 10 years. I don't have to tell you what that was... And it's not like he's throwing up his middle fingers and saying "F'all y'all." He sounded gracious in the interview I heard, and just disappointed they couldn't agree on a number. It sounded like business. It sounded like he liked it here and will miss it. So he'll play elsewhere, it'll be a bummer, and we'll be forced to remember the unbelievable things he did for the Steelers, like help give us an edge and identity, help forge one of the greatest defenses of all time, single-handedly save a Super Bowl, participate in another Super Bowl win, and do his part to win a third. Plus all the other awesome stuff. Are you really saying you'll think less of those memories because now on top of it you'll have to remember, "Pfft, and then he left for more money"? Do you feel that way about Alan Faneca (who actually left on less friendly terms) or Antwaan Randle El? Because there was NO competing with the money those guys got. To them I said, "Wow, holy sh--, we were never going to pay that much. You should definitely take it, because oh my god, that's so much money. Go. Enjoy your trillion dollars, and thank you very much for the service. Peace." The only difference between them and James is that James made a miscalculation. And I don't give a crap about his calculator.

 

Dude, take a valium and chill out before you have a stroke. People are going to believe what they believe and so will you and so will I. James left for more money. Problem is, it doesnt look like he will get it. Harrison's failure is that he isn't very smart and there is a history that bears that out beyond just this incident. Doesn't change what he contributed here. But our opinions about someone can be influenced by how we view character and these decisions by JH impact how some people view his character. It is what it is. Just because someone doesn't agree with me or you doesn't make them an idiot, it just makes them someone with a different opinion.

 

Of course I have some great memories where Harrison is concerned. His 100 yd int return in the Super Bowl is one for the ages and arguably the greatest play in Super Bowl history. I loved all of the great strip sacks, the big hits, the hurdling of Ladanian Tomlinson, etc. The thing that has bugged me about this thing is how hot and heavy Harrison seemed to pursue our most hated rivals, the Ratbirds, IMMEDIATELY upon his release. I know, I know, it's just a business. No big deal. Harrison can sign with who he wants to sign with. They're a 3-4 team and his agent thinks they'd be a good fit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!!! NO!!!!! These guys are the enemy. We've been through some MAJOR BATTLES with Thuggs, and Ray Ray, and Wacko Flacco, and John Hairball. For Harrison to pursue them so aggressively the minute the Steelers gave him his release leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If he signs with them for less than the Steelers were reportedly offering then I think I'd throw up in my mouth and, YES, that would in my mind tarnish his legacy just a little bit in Pittsburgh. Not to the point that I won't fondly remember and appreciate all he's done for the Steelers over the last several years, but to the point that I will have a lower opinion of James Harrison than I would have had he simply taken the 30% paycut and stuck around and retired as a Steeler! He's filthy rich either way and could have afforded to do that had he chosen to but instead he chose to grossly overestimate his value and then pander to the Rats! The Faneca and Randle El deals were totally different IMHO. There was no doubt that they were going to make more money elsewhere than they were with the Steelers. James (and his brilliant agent) should have known that his market would be limited given his age, his injuries and his declining production.

I know, I know, I'm probably being unreasonable here. But, hey, I'm a fan(atic) and this just rubs me the wrong way. More power to James. He can do what he wants, it's a free country, he's a free agent. But, in my mind anyway, his legacy may be somewhat tarnished because of this.

 

Harrison and especially Urlacher are well past their prime playing days. If they think that they can still grab a bunch of cash on the open market playing 1/3 of the snaps that they used to, then more power to them. In this idiots eyes it will definitely tarnish his legend with the Steelers especially if he becomes a Rat or a Brown. Neither one of these guys have a chance to make what they believe they are still worth but good luck to them finding a numbskull GM out there that will buy into their own self perception. I know, I know. I'm just too stupid to understand that 35 yr. old LB'ers with history's of injuries are still relevevent in the NFL. Hine Ward could have suited up for a dozen or more other teams but the loyalty in him decided otherwise and for that to happen it took a whole bunch of pride. (Just one idiots opinion)

 

Did JH sign with the Ratbirds? Did I miss something. I believe he will come back to us was when he sees that he cannot get the 6mil plus he wanted. He will make his 4th return with head held slightly high! Of course only if he didn't sign with the Rats.