Brandon Boykin

Not sure how as a Steelers' fan you can't like this trade.We were aggressive_Hooray! That's a first.

The guy we just added may immediately be the best CB on the team.

Sobering thought.

 

Why are rookies so undervalued on this board, why are they not considered for starting positions? If Golson and Grant earn starting roll status and are better than who is in there now lets play them. This goes for any position. I think Boydkin will start, I am loving this trade. The Steelers are not sitting back they are all in (finally). Grant has shown that he is a good tackler, something you better be able to do if you want to play for the PGH Steelers.

 

Come on quit crapping on Gay!

 

If he plays most of the snaps 60% or more) and contributes positively to the team, than it was definitely a good trade. It buys time for Golson to get healthy and for both rookies to learn and get acclimated. If he proves to be a valuable player, I expect Colbert and company to get him a deal.

 

To spend a 4th rd pick just to give rookies time to learn is poor business. I value draft picks higher than that, especially the 1st 4 rds. I'll repeat myself, if he is one and done AND costs us a 4th rd pick ONLY a SB Ring is worthy of this trade.

Now, if he plays well I do expect him to be extended, hopefully. He's a solid CB, but he's no Peterson orRevis.

Cajune

 

I agree about Mr. Right Now. Could you see a scenario where if Cortez continues to not live up to the money he's getting but Boykin plays well that Cortez gets released and Boykin gets a deal for a few years?

 

Well what do you know, Glenn. My dislike and disagree buttons work too!

 

Looks like I stand alone. The Steelers has historically built their team thru the draft with a few FA mixed in. Mortgaging the future to win " right now" I'll never accept. We're good enough to win right now without this trade. With Bell we would have been competing for a SB.

Cajun

 

Actually they were not good enough with the players they have slated for starting positions this year. Cortez was not good enough to even keep his job last year, so going into the year depending on him to "rebound" with nothing in the way of an experienced guy besides Blake behind him is just crazy. The second rounder you were hoping to mix in is out for the season and the fourth rounder looks like he may need some work.

This is not a mortgage your future because it's a fifth round conditional pick. If this team ends up giving up a fourth because he plays more than 60%, it's a good deal because he was needed.

 

Yeah probably just a tad.

 

I had read or heard the Steelers have being trying to deal with Philly for awhile now trying to get him. I really like this decision by the front office. he is a ball hawk

 

I went with informative
Need a two thumbs up button

a 4th wouldn't be bad with good production
like the trade

 

I also picked informative. I was always curious about Jack's buttons and now I know.

 

I think there is a balance to be had. You have to weight the cost of the trade....in this case a 4th or 5th...against the current status of the rookies you had hoped to contribute this year. Golson's injury may have forced their hand, but still. Add into the mix Blake, who was better last year than anyone expected, Allen, who was worse and might never be what we thought, and Webb, which at the moment we have no idea what he can give us.

 

Cajun, I'm not going to pile on but I will neither agree or disagree with you simply because I haven't seen Boykin play and I don't place value on draft picks or position. I have seen people upset because of the use of a 4th round comp pick on Landry Jones, people upset about Jarvis Jones and his two year production for a first round pick and so on but I value the players contribution more so than draft position. If Boykin is good that I have no problem giving up a 4th because as Blast pointed out recently the motley list of fourth rounders in teh last 15 years is more miss than hit and a good CB with Boykin's attitude is a steal. Time will tell but heck if after this year they have to sign him I'd say dump some under performing drafted guys and keep him.

also your building through the draft is inaccurate they also went out and got Bettis in a trade, Farrior in FA and perhaps the most underrated pick up of Jeff Hartings without whom there would have been no "one for the thumb"

 

I'm not Gay bashing, he's stepped up. Just saying

LOL

 

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

NO DOUBT
We loved it when he went to Arizona with all the other wierdos.

BUTT NO he had to come back!!!
like McFadden bo badden mi my mo madden.

 

So, I looked back at 4th round selections from 2004-2014. Here is who the Steelers selected:

Martavis Bryant

Shmarko Thomas

Landry Jones

Alameda Ta’amu

Cortez Allen

Thaddeus Gibson

Tony Hills

Daniel Supulvelda

Steely McBeam

Willie Colon

Orian Harris

Fred Gibson

No 4th round selections in 2004 or 2009

Bryant, lots of potential. We are all hopeful that Shmarko is starter material. Cortez, we will see. Willie Colon - Steelers paid him, so more positive than negative. Still, there are at least 7 of 12 guys on this list that are a who's who of who are they more so than they were key contributors to the team. Bottom line, giving up a 4th round pick isn't mortgaging the team.

 

How is it mortgaging the future? We gave up a mid round pick for a guy who is a proven NFL player... We either sign him after the season (thus making him worth the pick), or we lose him to FA (which gets us a compensatory pick).

It's not "the only way this is a good trade" scenario in my mind. The only way it's a bad trade is if he comes in and plays poorly... which would give us the smallest return for the pick, both production wise and by way of a future compensatory pick.

 

And a few folks really know how to push my buttons, BFT, lol.

(and you know who you are )