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Boyd Out and Another WR Signed

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by CanadianSteel, Aug 18, 2015.

  1. SteelerJJ

    SteelerJJ Well-Known Member

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    Gotta love the internet age. Tee Martin was the same type of player; mid round draft pick that never progressed beyond 3rd string.... just think, he was selected before Tom Brady.
     
  2. niterider

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    At this point, Jones is taking up a valuable roster spot. With the changes in extra point, the need to have a running/slash kind of QB is more important now. There will be a stronger tendency to go for 2 and having a running Qb will prove valuable.
     
  3. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Ah, Tee Martin. He was one of those 'potentials' that never really potentialises.

    So it keeps coming back to the same point - why do people seem to get on LJ's case so much, when in comparison to these other guys he isn't considerably worse? Obviously, I get what @niterider@niterider says, that he's taking up a roster spot. But so is the 5th WR, or the 6th DB, or the Long Snapper, etc. etc.
     
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  4. PWP

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    I disagree. You keep a 5th. WR or a 6th. DB for their future value or for ST'S play or a combo of the 2 . The back up QB position is singularly focused obviously . Either he has future value or not .
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don't follow? Do you mean if they had Byod they could insert him to go for 2? Because thats not happening nor should it or do you mean if we had to use him as our 3rd string QB in a game hed have more value then Landry? Theyd have to score TD's in order for them to cash in on him being of more value going for 2 points and TD's would be in short supply with Boyd or any 3rd string QB leading the way.

    How many 3rd string QBs have value? I think the issue is more with Steelers policy of carrying 3 QB's then Landry himself and he's just catching the fallout.
     
  6. niterider

    niterider Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't talking about Boyd specifically. For the record I do not think he offered much value to the team. But there will be a need for a "gadget" type of running QB in regards to the 2 point conversion that we will see much more of, a more athletic Tim Tebow if you will. This is a perfect spot for a 3rd or 2nd string QB to assume that role. It would also add value to a position that traditionally "wastes' a spot on the roster. Landry would not fit that role at all.
     
  7. PWP

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    Fair enough , not to many have much value I would agree with that . I guess most feel why keep him over a water boy a extra guy to clean out the cleats, someone to starch the shirts. At least when we had Batch and Lefty peeps still had some hope if they had to play. Is there any Steeler fan in the world who has hope for Landry ?

    That's all I am saying as once the hope is gone then the QB needs to be gone with that hope...
     
  8. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I will tell you something hilarious about Tee Martin though. He won the national championship here in Knoxville the year after Peyton was drafted. So then when Peyton kept choking in the playoffs I used to tell all the bandwagon colts fans around here that if the colts want a Super Bowl they should get Tee Martin. Man you talk about making people mad enough to fight! LOL!!!
     
  9. defva

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    How do we know that Boyd or any other qb is not better then Landry if no one else get the opportunity to at least present some competition. I thought that's what preseason was for?
     
  10. steeler guru

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    You can ignore this if you want to, but I think Taj might have a problem grasping playbooks. Some guys pick it up on the fly with some great study habits, and some guys take a year or two.
    I think Taj is a slow learner, and the pace is too much for him because he can't think fast because he doesn't know the system.
    You can't expect to bring him to camp and expect a veteran QB. You should treat him like a first round draft pick.

    I think they cut him because he was slow learning the playbook, scheme, system and philosophy.

    Football isn't a thinking mans game, its more skill. But QB's have to be quick thinkers and fast learners.

    They still should have given him a few days with the first team, and play him for a game.

    He does seem to have an issue with egotism.
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Tyler Murphy QB/WR is on the roster.
     
  12. thorn058

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    If they need a gadget play to score on a 2pt conversion they are better off finding a WR or RB that can throw a decent pass and using the wildcat formation rather than having a little used running QB as 3rd string to do it. Heck Ben is so hard to take down and so big that he could run and lunge as he had in the past to score a 2pt play.
     
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  13. SGSteeler

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    Football may not be a thinking mans game, but quarterback is. You gotta have a certain level of football iq and smarts for the position to be successful in the NFL. Everything is so much quicker and more complex at this level... The calls, the reads, the opposing defensive schemes, terminology etc. if he can't learn the play book, how in the world can you put him on the field? No way they should have given him first team reps. It would've been a waste of time for everyone involved.

    This isn't college. Either figure it out and compete, or the team will find someone else who can. Simple as that.
     
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  14. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Treat him like a first round pick? :confused:

    Took the words right out of my mouth.

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  15. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    It's also what training camp is for. I'm guessing Boyd wasn't just sat around all camp waiting for Jones to take a break...
     
  16. Diamond

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    I think Bell can handle the 2 pointers better than a running QB, and Ben didnt have a problem hitting Bryant for 2, how silly can it get that now we are talking about getting a run QB just for two pointers, theres enough specialist players as it is without dreaming up another one....
     
  17. niterider

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    Fair enough, but it wouldn't just be for 2 pointers. He would have a dual role instead of sitting on the bench with a clipboard all season. I guess that's really my point; get more value out of the 3rd QB somehow.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You're not going to get value out of a 3rd string QB. They are an insurance policy you hope you never have to use. Landry, Boyd, whoever, they are clipboard holders, thats it.
     
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  19. niterider

    niterider Well-Known Member

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    But they don't have to be is my point. Maybe I'm just ahead of my time. ;)
     
  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    lol, I like the out of the box thinking but on this team, it's not feasible.
     
  21. contract

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  22. Lizard72

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    I think AB can throw a pretty decent pass as well.
     
  23. SteelerJJ

    SteelerJJ Well-Known Member

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    True. I don't remember people being upset with Brian St. Pierre holding down that spot either.
     
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  24. Iowasteeljim

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    I'm not doing anything and I am willing to come in and play for 2 point conversions...just saying!
     
  25. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    It's always a horrible idea to play your best WR at QB.
     

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