Apology to Bruce Arians

I would like to hereby formally offer my apology to Bruce Arians for chastising him while he was the Steelers OC.

Does anyone have a phone number for Clark Hunt, owner of the Kansas City Chiefs? I would to call him and tell him he was right for firing Todd Haley.

 

I agree with the first part of what you have said. I disagree with the second part. There is nothing in Haley's previous work, even with the Chiefs--whom he turned around and got in the playoffs with Matt Cassel, that suggests he's a bad coach.

To me, both men operated with handcuffs because of the worst o-line play in the league, Haley a little more so than Arians.

 

boston writer put this image to laugh about our offensive call .. seems we were sending adams deep .lol

 

i would love to put all the blame on 1 person and that being Haley. because that would mean all they have to do is change the OC and all will be fine, but thats not the case.

this team has maybe the worst oline in football, they dont really have any weapons that scare anyone and because of all that their offense is painfully vanilla.

i think Haley is in a tough no win situation. i would say him and Ben are in about the same boat. they both want to win and want to do certain things, but the talent around them isnt good enough.

- AB is a pretty good wr, but he is easily double teamed and he is almost no threat in the redzone.
- Miller is one of my all time favorite Steelers, but he is not one of the top TE's in the game even when healthy. he is a solid TE but hes not in the same league as some of the top guys.
- Sanders is pretty much the same guy AB is, but used less. hes fast and small and pretty much non existent in the redzone.
- Wheaton is an unknown, but when he has had the chance he hasnt done much with it. also fits into the same category as AB and Sanders. small and fast, but probably not a real redzone threat.
- Moye like Wheaton is an unknown, but when given the chance he has made a few plays. he has the size and toughness to be pretty good and hes obviously a redzone threat.
- Cotchery is what he is. hes a solid wr that can move the chains on third down and every team needs a guy like him, but again hes not a game changer.

those are the weapons. so you put a bunch of small and unproven wrs on the field with a terrible oline and you get exactly what we have to this point. a 2-5 record and one of the worst offenses in the game.

tough for Haley to open up the play book and its tough for Ben to put up much better numbers than what hes putting up right now. combine a terrible oline that gives Ben no time and cant run block so they have no real run game to speak of and they cant pass block add in the small wrs and thats a recipe for a bad season.

 

I'm sorry, but I keep coming back to Tomlin.
-Tomlin has been the HC for the past 7 years.
-Tomlin looked good when the team was flush with veteran leadership (Ward, Farrior, Hampton, Smith, Hoke, etc.)
-As the veteran leadership has diminished, so too has Tomlin's coaching success. Coincidence?
-Tomlin has made every coaching personnel move on this team, including the offensive line coaches.
-Tomlin has been responsible for coaching the young, drafted players up to the next level. Has he?
-Tomlin is responsible (working with the coordinators and assistants) for making sure the team is prepared with a purposeful game plan on offense and defense. Do they look prepared to play football to you?
-Tomlin is responsible for making in-game/halftime adjustments when a part of their game plan is not working. Do we ever make halftime adjustments or do we stick with the same old gameplan even when it doesn't appear to be working?
-Tomlin is responsible for making sure that the players he fields on Sunday are READY TO PLAY and give us the best chance to win. Are they? See Guy Whimper.
-Tomlin is responsible for effective game clock management. ???

I don't mean to put ALL of the blame on Tomlin as there is plenty of blame to go around. BUT HE'S NOT GETTING IT DONE RIGHT NOW AS THE HEAD COACH OF THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS!

 

Maybe we drafted Adams for pass catching ability - he's our secret weapon!

 

to me the worst problem about tomlin is that the team is not following him anymore , everybody play as they want and seems don't care too much about the outcome , kiesel sayd it today that alot of players are playing only for payceck , and that's say a lot about the power of tomlin

 

Agree whole heartedly.

On another note, this team really seems to be missing leadership. I read an article by Wexell that seems to indicate that our new center is taking over that leadership role and he's only been on the roster 6 weeks. Combine that with Woodley saying that it wasn't "his job" to watch the QB on Pryor's run, Woodley didn't name him, but you may as well just say "Hey I did my job, it was ______ that didn't do his" to the press. This group of guys sure seem like they are just in it for themselves, and not the team.

 

Yep! Woodley did his job. Timmons switched with Vince moments before the snap and was responsible for Pryor at the line and clark had deep containment. Timmons came out and claimed his part of it. It was on both him and clark.

Going back to the OP........... Jack got it right, both arians & haley are handcuffed by this very bad OL.

Cajun-

 

No doubt. You can't blame Woodley there for wanting to clear his name. I didn't get the impression he was throwing anyone under the bus, just that he wanted to make clear not to place blame on him. I'd do the same.

 

Every time I'm at a bar watching a game, I have to remind other fans of this fact. There's not much Haley can do when the opposing front 7 can just pin their ears back on almost... EVERY... DOWN.

 

I don't think Arians would have done any better with the group. It was time for Arians to go. We all seen it. His relationship with Ben wasn't productive and his offense the last year he was here wasn't that great. He's doing a better job with the Cardinals but how much is he really doing. He did a great job as intrim head coach with the Colts but like i said he suck his last year with the Steelers.

 

I dont know 5859 the O didnt suck like it does now
they averaged at least 50 more yards a game and 2-3 more points

 

I hope this is sarcasm.

 

and we are 28th in points per game this year

 

I still don't think Haley is the problem. So many times this team has drives and fumbles them away. Ben is almost always under pressure from such a piss poor O-Line which has him either getting sacked or throwing a stupid pick. There is a serious lack of talent in every position on the line from just not being good enough or too inexperienced. The Right DE has owned every LT that we have had since starks but you have rookies and second year players going against 3 pro bowlers. That is a mismatch every time and Ben simply doesn't have time for the play to develop. Shut down the running game, take away the passing game and it's a play from behind situation every time.

Maybe that is why Tomlin deferred the opening coin toss against Oakland. Probably terrified of his offenses talent and thought he would need a short field for them to score. Too bad Pryor ran for 93 yards on the opening play.

This team is just bad all the way around. That cannot be pinned on Haley alone. Tomlin and LeBeau deserve alot of the blame also.

 

Tomlin didn't fire Arians so that's not every coaching move by him Art Rooney II fired Arians. It has nothing to do with veteran leadership it's the fall off in talent. Bill Cowher struggled from 98-00.

 

I read today on Steelers Gameday Plus App that Jarvis is about to lose his job to Worilds. Did you see that?

 

I hope so. I'm sure there aren't a lot of coordinators in the league that would want to send a rookie out against Tom Brady anyway.

 

i agree jones has more upside than worilds

 

Cowher didn't have a franchise quarterback. I think a good head coach figures out how to have success when he has a franchise QB like Ben.