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After 20 nfl games Pickett

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Oct 30, 2023.

  1. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    It’s definitely a mix when it comes to the offensive struggles. KP has not played well but he is young and in a tough spot with this offense. MC I could argue is the worst OC in NFL history from a numbers standpoint and that is with four different QBs. The OL has regressed greatly this year and Najee is an average at best RB. It’s a big mix of suck all around.
     
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  2. mytake

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  3. The Sodfather

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    In my opinion it's a rush to judgement to say the guy is not a starter, that he'll just be a back-up. But that's what bother me more than anything, not knowing for sure. I think you're kidding yourself if your convinced that this is as good as he's ever going to be. Meantime, I'll continue to root like hell for him. Now, if improvements are made moving forward and he still struggles, then I'll be one of the first here to point out that he's not the long-term solution.
     
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  4. SWSteel

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    Canada IS the main problem IMO. Not sure how good KP will be, BUT his playnis predicated by the absolute **** show of an off system-

    What is he being taught to read?
    What to do when 1st read isn't there
    SIMPLE routes easy to diagnose
    Formations n play calls that are very predictable

    Feel KP is limited, but need a quality OC n system, plus a solid OL to determine if he is the answer, but hard to determine with an OC who makes Ray Sherman look like Bill Walsh

    Lordy
     
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  5. Formerscribe

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    He didn't stop and jump for it. He adjusted his stride and reached. It was a decent throw. It just wasn't a perfect one. You can question his accuracy, but yours just isn't good.
     
  6. Formerscribe

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  7. Formerscribe

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    I honestly don't get the need some folks here have to decide this now. There is no point to playing Trubisky or Rudolph right now unless Pickett is injured. Neither of them is an NFL-quality starter. We know that much for certain. Pickett is the only one with any potential upside and the Steelers are committed to him for this season. That means there are 10 more games to gather data before the team has to even consider making a decision. Even then, I'm not sure how likely it is they would move on. This team has other holes to fill. If there is someone they absolutely love who falls into their laps, maybe you make the move, but the better option is to spend at least one more offseason strengthening the team. If Pickett suddenly figures it out in year three, so much the better. If not, you try again in 2025.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Or we could wait until next year when he has a new OC :shrug:.
     
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  9. SteelReal

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    I've seen a couple posts from you (at least one during game day) where you were proposing benching Pickett. It may have only been for a game or two, but you still suggested it. I see now you're changing your stripes, but it's hypocritical don't you think to rag on others that suggest it?? I guess it's ok when you do it, but a problem when other people do it.
     

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  10. Steelvision

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    name one QB that has consistently played well under Canada
     
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  11. mytake

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    Are you saying the numbers aren't accurate? Yeah, that's what I thought.
     
  12. BobbyBiz

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    I didn't read through the whole thread, but Im in the 'you don't know for sure what you've got as long as Canada is the OC' camp.
    Not absolving KP by any means. He's woefully inconsistent.
    But I can't get past the fact that Ben Roethlisberger looked like pure ass in his one year with Canada.
    1st ballot HOF'er Ben Roethlisberger looked nearly as anemic in the 1st 3 quarters as KP, only to call his own plays in the 4thQ and suddenly he was the Ben of old.
    This ain't no coincidence.
     
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  13. Formerscribe

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    It was one time and the idea was to sit him in that one game to give him an opportunity to reset, not to give up on him. I’m sorry you don’t understand the difference.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    Yup. Pressures are a more subjective statistic, so the source matters more.
     
  15. SteelReal

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    Actually you didn't put any timeframe on it and it was the first quarter of the third game of the season so you were clearly fed up with him. It's real easy to go back and say now I just meant that one game especially after what transpired later in the game. Besides that you're the one that brought up starting Trubisky or Rudolph over Pickett in this thread. Nobody else did. Maybe the threads are starting to run together in your head. You're addressing issues that haven't been brought up.
     
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  16. Formerscribe

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    Your mind reading powers suck. No, I didn't give up on him. I never said he wasn't the guy. I thought that having him play through his struggles at that moment wasn't working, so a reset might help. I have consistently stated that I'm not sure if he is the guy or not, but I still think it is possible. I only brought up the idea of starting one of them over him to say that it would be a stupid idea. How did you not understand that?
     
  17. jeh1856

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    Ben endorsed this idea

    That alone tells me it’s a dumb idea
     
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  18. groutbrook

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    Opponents don't think the Steelers can beat them with the pass, the QB part is interchangeable.
     
  19. SteelReal

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    So you're bringing up random topics no one is discussing or questioning (riding out the rest of the season with Trubisky/Rudolph) as if someone did?? Makes sense. To be honest I don't really care what your mindset was when you suggested benching him I just thought it was kind of strange someone would suggest it that soon who seemed to be on board with him. What really would that have done for someone who has no real threat behind him in the pecking order and knows it?? It's not like we're Tennesee with a potential Tannehill/Levis controversy....we got bad, worse and disastrous to pick from. Where's the motivation to do anything he's done any differently in the past coming from? Four games later he's still the same Pickett and Trubisky just proved he's not a real threat. I'd be highly surprised if Rudolph plays another regular season game barring a slew of injuries to some teams quarterback room.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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    I guess you didn't watch the Buccaneers offense last year, there's a reason Leftwich doesn't have a job.
     
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  21. Formerscribe

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    Reading skills aren't your strong point. I wrote at the time that sitting him briefly might help him reset. It was always about doing what would give him the best chance to straighten out. If you don't think people have been posting about replacing him this season, you haven't been paying attention.
     
  22. SteelReal

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    What do reading skills have to do with anything?? We both acknowledge you said he needed a reset...other than that you can backtrack all you want as to how long you were suggesting it should take place, or what you thought would be accomplished by it. We're just taking your word for it at this point. Has nothing to do with reading anything. By the way I must not have been paying attention...name one person who suggested benching Pickett the rest of the year for the backups?
     
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  23. jeh1856

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    Exactly

    He was fired because he wasn’t doing the job
     
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  24. METALMAN_68

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    Not saying I particularly want Leftwich but their offense ranked higher than the Steelers and Canada still has a job
     
  25. SuperSteelers

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    It is over for Pickett. Canada ruined him and his confidence. Time to move on from both.
     
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