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4 things the Steelers changed after Canada

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jan 30, 2024.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Think a lot of people overlook that they also were playing with house money when Rudolph took over, they became agreesive, not because Rudolph has some amazing skill set but because there was no tomorrow.

    Then look what happened in the first quarter against Buffalo, started playing with scared money again and Rudolph looked like ****.

    Coaching has very much hindered Pickets development.
     
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  2. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Where do you get this bit about him being 100 percent? Being medically cleared and being 100 percent are not the same thing. That he wanted to play doesn't mean he was 100 percent. I'm sorry you don't understand those things. You might want to learn more about the situation before you post next time.

    It wasn't a choice between two healthy quarterbacks. Pickett was coming off surgery and hadn't played in a month by the Ravens game, which was the first time they had the option of bringing him back. By the playoff game, it had been six weeks. He wasn't established enough to put him in there with six weeks of rust on him. Again, how did you not understand that?
     
  3. Formerscribe

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    It wasn't just that there was no tomorrow. The defense was broken. They were without their top two inside linebackers and their top four safeties. They had just lost Fitzpatrick to injury and Kazee to suspension. They couldn't rely on the defense any longer. Rudolph also got to start against the worst defense the Steelers faced all season. The Bengals were even worse than they had been the first time they teams met because they lost B.J. Reader. That left them more vulnerable inside, especially against the run. Trying to cover for that and ensure that Freiermuth didn't gauge them all game like he did in November pushed the Bengals into the stupid decision to go man-to-man against Pickens all day. Oops.
     
  4. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    So you’re saying if Pickett is 100% he's playing??? Did the offensive players want Pickett to play??? Did Tomlin say he wasn't playing Pickett because he wasn't 100%??? The answer is no, so no one has said Pickett wasn't 100% but you’re GUESS is that's the reason... against all evidence to the contrary... again, how did you not understand that?
     
  5. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    I think a lot of ppl overlooked the fact that Picketts inability to operate the offense efficiently was a very big part of Canada's downfall... Easy scapegoat to blame coordinator for players not executing... happens all the time
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Or you can look at the fact that both played well without Canada. Steelers fired a coach in season for the first time in about 100 years. Canada was terrible.
     
  7. Formerscribe

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    I'm saying that it was false to claim that he was 100 percent. I'm saying that it was a combination of reasons why he didn't play against Baltimore the first game he was cleared to return. Tomlin explained all of these. One was sticking with the hot hand, which is not the same as saying the player is better. One was that Rudolph was healthy and Pickett wasn't 100 percent. One was that Pickett hadn't played in a month. Please try harder to keep up.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Pickett had a grade 3 high ankle sprain, he absolutely was not 100%.
     
  9. OB1

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    2023 was a complete waste of a year in terms of assessing Pickett given that they decided to keep Canada. It was predictable that no one would really know how good/bad Pickett is because Canada was retained.

    It's enjoyable reading these threads, but Pickett's ability is truly unknown until a few games into next season.

    The main objective of keeping Canada for Tomlin, was so Tomlin would get his extension. Mission accomplished.
     
  10. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you heard someone within the organization say that Pickett wasn't 100%... I didn't... It's speculation beyond that but I don't think there was any way healthy or not Tomlin could replace Rudolph with Pickett after what had occurred... The fans would have torn the stadium down and more importantly,,,, and I think this is the MAJOR part u and scribe miss or dismiss,,,, there would have been a player revolt... Don't you think the players on the team almost unanimously supporting and calling for Rudolph to be behind center is an important part here?
     
  11. HeinzMustard

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  12. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    You left out the part where almost every player on the team wanted Rudolph behind center, and that the fan base would've revolted... also you failed to mention the drastic difference in offensive efficiency, positive yds, touchdowns, etc... Pickett was cleared to play, not being 100% was the least of the reasons he didn't... I would tell you to try harder to keep up but you're not trying at all...
     
  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    No one has to say it, it’s impossible for a grade 3 high ankle sprain to heal completely in 4 weeks. The tightrope surgery he had enabled him to get back on the field quicker so you could be right about Rudolph playing regardless. Tomlin liked what he saw from him and wanted to ride the hot hand.

    They also still view Pickett as their long term starter so Im sure there was some aspect of the decision in doing what is best for him. Thats what happened in the Cardinals game, he was already playing on a bad ankle and made it worse and tore the ligament completely from the bone.
     
  14. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Mmmm bacon
     
  15. jeh1856

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