2016 NFL Draft

Oh well. Might as well start a thread about this topic.

NFL.com has us drafting CB Eli Apple from Ohio State.

 

I don't know what type of grade Eli will have after the combine. He's a decent player, but isn't exactly a great tackler. He's not a small guy tho, so I'm sure a lot of people around here will like that

 

He's too tall

 

I have been saying I want Fuller, I just got done watching the Ohio St and Purdue games and man I was not impressed. He fell for the double move just about every time and then when he caught up he would plow right into the wr for the flag. Also he got handled pretty good by the wr in the running game. I read a lot of good stuff about this guy but them two games really had opened my eyes, no more man crush.........Now I guess I will have to watch some of Apple's games.

 

So it looks like we may be getting a 7th for McCain which would give us 3 7th round picks. With that said I have a feeling us not having a 5th or 6th might not be as bad as thought. I know you can't trade comp picks but we still have two other 7th's to play with and if we move back in the 1st that could add a 5th and still keep all 3 of the 7th's.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...-just-one-compensatory-pick-in-2016-nfl-draft

 

Yeah that was what I was saying/meaning. We have 3 7th's one we can't trade cause it is a comp pick, the other two package together and move up. Not sure what we could get for two 7th's but if it gets up in the early 6th that would be great. Plus we still would have a 7th left, I am also really hoping we move back a few spots in the 1st maybe even to pick up a 4th.

As for Scobee I am not as upset with the trade as most, I am upset the dude just lost it. I feel having a good kicker is important, sometimes it don't work out having a good kicker ask the Vikes. I didn't pay much attention to the Jags however I do know Scobee got them a ton of points over the years. So I was looking at it like this, the Steelers lost their kicker and are considered a playoff team. Go for the proven, did it work out no and we ended up with one of the best fa finds in the league. We had no idea what Boz was so it is easy now to look back and go wtf???? jmo

 

Ok so I have talked a lot about us trading back to gain picks. Now so much will depend on how the draft shakes out and who falls. I have come up with what I think is options for us, yeah I had to use my pea brain a little, lol.

#1 KC.....They need oline help if Decker, Conklin, Alexander...etc were to be there at 25 maybe they want to move up a few giving up their 5th(they have 2....one comp). We only move back 3 spot...

#2 Den....Same as KC oline need which will help our picks value,,,,they have 2 - 3's and 4's a comp in each untradeable also 3 7's. Move back 5-6 spots(depending on Sundays outcome) maybe gain a 4th and 7th????

These are my top 2 options without moving out of the 1st, of course that is depending what talent is there. I know some mock had Hargreaves falling to us and if so my trade back is off the table, lol. I just feel the CB/S class is good enough to get a guy that can help late in the 1st early in the 2nd, Thoughts?

 

yep BF, down two draft picks on a couple of part time players. the boykin move was also puzzling. i fully expect this will force us into more FA moves because we are very depleted in the secondary right now.

 

BF I am usually right there with you but man I disagree on this. When we traded for Scobee we felt we were a playoff team, with that said we wanted to make sure we had a kicker. Scobee went 20/26 on fg's the prior year...3 misses over 50 and was 100% on pat's. The three years before that he had a fg% of....92, 89.3 & 92. I would give up a late pick for that, it just sucked that when he got here he sucked and Boz was lights out. Remember we were a team looking at the big picture we wanted someone with experience. Remember Scobee was our 3rd kicker, if Boz was so good why wasn't he signed before? It is easy now to look back and say what the heck were we thinking but since he was our 3rd choice I don't think it wasn't that bad of a move.

 

It actually worked out good for the Steelers in not playing Boykin, they won't have to give up that 4th rd pick.

 

Well thats fine you have your feelings and I am not gonna bounce back and forth with ya cause numbers will not change how you feel. I understand your side but we aren't talking about going out and trading a pick, let's not forget the hand the Steelers were dealt. Sus is our starter goes down in the 1st preseason game then we sign Hartley and lose him in preseason. In which we then went the trade route, enter Scobee.....and as we know didn't work out. Let me ask you a question if Scobee was good would you still be pissed at the trade?

 

Ok cool fair enough......

 

i agree elvis, that was the puzzling part. he made us better and that was evident from his first game. the season would have been quite different had he played more early.

as for the 4th or 5th round pick as #6 was eluding to, we could have probably made it easier for us to re-sign him had we not pizzed him off and that draft pick of even a 4th rounder would have been moot with a better player that is young enough and talented enough already being here.

 

Its hard to compare Boykin to Blake.... Boykin was almost always in the slot... When Blake got in towards end of the year he still was lined up on the outside.

Okay so watching the SB, I'm a little worried. We really need a pass rush if we are going to win the big dance. Can we find a pass rusher in the draft at 25 or later?

 

A later round guy I would like to keep my eyes on is Victor Ochi Stoney Brook. He was talked a lot here after the Shrine game where he was pretty much unstoppable. I have to look more to see who fits the pass rusher mold.

 

I read about him, and he seems like a quality prospect. Freakish arm length and hand size for a guy a hair above 6'. I'd take a chance on him for those measurables alone.

At this point in time I'm really liking the idea of Cody Whitehair (OG, Kansas) at #25. Put the Ramon Foster contract to immediate FA help on defense. Unless we find a starting CB or safety at #25, which is unlikely, our best return on investment would be a starting OL.

 

He tore up the Shrine game however 2 years ago so did Chickillo.........just sayin. I am all about helping the oline but I have said in other threads I am in favor of a trade back and gain a pick or two. Conklin has my interest I need to look at him I just have this feeling about him being our guy. I also think our draft strategy will depend on who we get in fa. Another thing to keep in mind is the combine where players will move all over, this time of year is fun cause so much is unknown.

 

I thought they changed the rules about trading comp picks? I have a pretty good feeling about Chickillo he is a underrated athlete who was miscast at Miami ,his first step was considered one of the better ones at the combine last year and he looks well built and powerful.

 

i agree about chickillo being a key factor next year in improving the front end. he and dupree and jones need to take the next step for us. i think they have to be the it factor. tuitt and shazier should actually improve also. big leap forward hopefully for chick and dupree in year one to year two. the base is there for us. add some good vet help on the back end and we are not that far off. chick, dupree, jones, tuitt, heyward, shazier, williams, spence, cockrell, golden, grant, golson, all are young and can still improve a lot. we may expect immediate gratification from these guys and they have talent but are young in playing together we have to remember.

 

I am not sure as far as I know they didn't but don't that that as gospel.