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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mac daddyo, Aug 30, 2021.

  1. MeanJoeBlue

    MeanJoeBlue Well-Known Member

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    Someone mentioned that if Joseph is on the 53 man roster for game 1, his vet salary is guaranteed for the entire season.
    If he is on the PS for the first game, they can always chose to promote him later, make him a PS call-up, or cut him without dead money.
     
  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't expect much from him. the Raiders defense is terrible, and they still cut Joseph.
     
  3. The Sodfather

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    The only song I ever associated him with was Danke Schoen, and I think he was in his early teens when he recorded it. Other than that, some TV and movie cameos and a very lucrative career in Las Vegas night clubs, I don't know much about him.
     
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  4. The Sodfather

    The Sodfather Well-Known Member

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    I think that could be a case of he suffered with the system and the talent or lack thereof around him. Well, that's what I'm hoping, anyway. They are as dangerously thin in the secondary as they are along the o-line.
     
  5. S.T.D

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    Its the Only song I know also , and the one my Grandmother would sing. LoL.
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

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    I was hoping they’d sign him when they had him in a few months ago. I think it’ a good move.
     
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  7. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Raiders signed him this free agency period, then cut him before he even played a regular season game with them, that's why I don't expect much.
     
  8. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Fig.:smiley1::cool:
     
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  9. The Sodfather

    The Sodfather Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, well then that doesn't bode well. Didn't they have him a few years ago before he went to Cleveland? Anyway, he is needed depth if nothing else.
     
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  10. Jujubean

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    How you liking this new look OL Blast? Solid looking group.

    Moore
    Dotson
    Hauseneaur
    Turner
    Okafor

    Ben might literally be dead by halftime.
     
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  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I doubt Hassanaeur starts over Green at center
     
  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Jamir Jones is what made roche expendable. I'm sure it was close but we can only keep so many. Giants snapped him up quick or we would have. We added the kid from ND St. where he had 29.5 sacks.:cool:
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    We’ll see. I like Moore there though, maybe a blessing in disguise.

    Not sure why you quoted a post about the secondary, you got a real bug up your ass about the oline :lolol:
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He’s on the PS for 6 days because of a covid rule

     
  15. doubleyoi

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    If the can't sign him maybe they trade him now for a deal like Mack (2 firsts and change). But I don't think it is likely to sign him with a bunch guaranteed then trade since that would create a ton of dead cap...as far as I understand
     
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  16. Lizard72

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    Made my post without checking. Really wanted to keep Roche on the squad, you’re correct, Giants snapped him up quick!

    just really impressed with how he performed in 2 different defenses at the college level and just needs a little time at the NFL level to really develop.
     
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  17. Lizard72

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    UG3 was a head scratcher!
    I think every outlet had him as not impressive at all for a 3 year vet! Would have cut him and kept Roche as well and brought him back if you really wanted to!
     
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  18. The Sodfather

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    Yeah, I always forget about the dreaded "dead cap". Good call.
     
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  19. The Sodfather

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    UGIII has been injured most of his tenure here, and when he's been healthy, he hasn't shown much of anything. I understand we don't see these guys work out, film study and practice every day. But, I find it difficult to believe that Roche's potential was less than what UGIII brings to the table.
     
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  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's not set yet juju. They are looking for the best combo they said. It could be moore, dotson, green, turner and haeg. They want the best combo and the best combo playing next to and with each other side by side. Don't jump the gun yet. Klemm isnt, which is good news. All you doom and gloom guys always have talked about klemm, our draft picks, our offense being just like last year, Ben getting killed, Ben playing like before, no run game, no vets on the line, no defense left, but all they have made are some pretty good moves that just may pay big dividends. Let the process play out. I too was a little skeptical, but they have surprised me with what they have done so far. I think we will be better then many think. They seem to be making some good or at least the right moves.:cool:
     
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  21. Jujubean

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    Im trying to move on from TOMLIN for my mental health and this atrocity has my full attention.
     
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  22. Blast Furnace

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    I actually like 3 of those players, 4 when Green gets the nod.
     
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  23. SGSteeler

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    Ultimately we won't know if it was a screw up or not for at least another couple years. I remember people freaking out about losing Tuzar Skipper and he never did anything other than be PS fodder and get cut. That decision doesn't seem so bad in hindsight. But yeah, it is especially weird since Allen didn't go to the IR. UG3 is rough out there. I definitely would've taken the chance on Roche being a decent player than taking UG3 for what he is right now. However, he likely gets cut anyways when the Steelers add Karl Joseph or a signed CB to the roster.

    On a side note... I'm beginning to get worried about that Watt deal. If he doesn't sign with us before game week, we might be looking at 2 years of Franchise Tags and walk from him. Maybe he truly was upset at the end of last year and this is what's come of it.
     
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  24. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    UG III might be on the roster while Marcus Allen is dealing with an injury, I don't think he will stay on the 53.
     
  25. SteelersFanIrl

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    I expect them to cut UG3 as well, Karl Joseph will almost certainly be moved to the active roster once his six day Covid entry testing is done, that’s probably the end of UG3 at that point.
     
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