Xavien Howard

Don’t need a crystal ball for common sense.

 

Some people need to use what is available?

 

Was this today???

 

I haven't read the previous 55 posts but we can't afford him .

I'm ready to roll with CS20.

 

Sign and extend. Howard replaces Haden next year.

 

Watt and Minkah say hello. A lot of money going to come out in the near future. Just don't think its doable for 2021. No doubt we need to look at CB for the future, but that's in the future

 

When you say “I signed a multi million dollar extension in 2018 that I didn’t completely understand and didn’t feel comfortable with”, Aren’t you also saying “I’m a moron and so are my advisors.”?

 

Measurables are just tools to help evaluate a player. The big, fast guy is more likely to succeed than the slower, smaller guy. That doesn't mean the slower, smaller guy can't overcome all that and be a dominant player.

Tom Brady is the ultimate example of that. By all accounts, his combine was terrible. His measurable were not good. That doesn't mean teams should go looking for guys like him, because they are the exception, not the norm.

Regarding Howard, the bottom line remains the same. The Steelers can't afford him. They have to lock up Watt and Fitzpatrick. They have aging offensive and defensive lines. They have no depth at safety. They can address some of that with young guys currently on the roster stepping up and next year's draft, but not all of it.

 

yes

 

Indeed for the Combine. Howard did much better at his Pro Day though. That said, it goes without saying; improvement can happen in due time. I would imagine that Pierre is much better than these numbers indicate now anyways.



Within that same vein, this post is yet another reminder that analytics, while informative and helpful, mean little overall in the NFL. Why?



Too.

Many.

Factors.

 

Side note, why are so many obsessed with Mr. Howard? I personally do not understand it myself. Yes, he is without a doubt a top three Corner in all of football but said position is very volatile by nature to begin with. How many years of top notch production will the team receive from him? Has he peaked in terms of his prime? How is his skill set going to benefit the team?


By comparison, no questions were needed with the trade of Minkah Fitzpatrick. Why? Never mind Minkah's age, Free Safety is less of a volatile position than Corner and the amount of production that a Safety can give a team exceeds that of a Corner. In addition, the current paradigm of the NFL sees more teams using their Number One Receivers in ways that were sparingly used a decade ago. As a result, Safeties have become arguably more important than Corners due to this fact.


Combine the aforementioned in addition to my previous statement about Pittsburgh's historical success with said position and the possibility of trading for Xavien Howard is even more bizarre as a whole.

 

Hard to see where he will end up with most teams having set their rosters and spent their money at this point.

Unless Miami move to sort out his contract this could drag on. They were always going to have an issue when they brought in an inferior player opposite him and gave him a better contract with more guarantees.

Arizona is probably the best fit if he leaves, they need a replacement for Peterson. I wouldn’t give more than a second for Howard, the fact you’ll have to pay him when he arrives is a huge drag on his value to the acquiring team.

 

Ben, Ebron, Heyward, Haden, JuJu all coming off the books soon...CB might be next to QB as the most important position in today's game.

Hope they're not going into next year with this crop minus Haden, plus a draft pick.

 

I was mostly agreeing with you, but I think the key is balance. Don't just go by measurables, but don't ignore them, either.

 

Correct on most. However, even during 2016, Baylor's Pro Day 40 times were laser timed. Even then, some of the big name colleges were well equipped the same. Regardless though, I do agree that the schools do sway favorable results for the player too often.

 

Love the player.. but not the compensation most likely needed to get him.

Hack

 

I don't understand why they hand time. It seems very conceited to me, as though they think they can do it better than a machine.

 

I didn't know the colleges were using laser timed 40s. Good to know...

 

The Steelers drafted Artie over Howard

 

The other mistake is that it should read..."The Steelers drafted Artie Burns over (insert just about any other name here)"