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“The Browns is the Browns”

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, May 8, 2021.

  1. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't really work though because they just bring up Ben's sketchy past and say they wouldn't want him anyway.
     
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  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Yeah like they don't have ,or never had players with a "sketchy past ", yet still had 2 lose with them on their team.
    If I got 2 have players with a so called sketchy past ...Well...at least I'd like 2 win with them ...Like Ben has provided.
     
  3. Mike T

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    you do realize that when they bring up Ben's past remind them that the guy they drafted instead is in jail for rape. Not really a strong argument to say we don't want this guy instead of the guy we drafted cause your guy was accused of something. LOL their guy was and is guilty of it.
     
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  4. Seven4Steel

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    I tend to think that what people think of JuJu actually is a point of emphasis. JuJu is obsessed with his brand. Is he the only one? No. It is a sign of the times. But his brand off the field spills over to his actions on it. That's bad. And since he is concerned with what people think of him, then it will always be a point of emphasis.

    His actions during football hours indicate that he's not just thinking about football when it matters most. It makes no difference whether the opposition uses it for bulletin board material. If we're the better team and are prepared to play, no level of intensity from the other side should sway the outcome.

    The real issue is that JuJu isn't the only Steeler who isn't properly focused and properly prepared to play each week, and stupid comments like his are just another indication of that reality.

    If we were ready, he could have called them a glorified high school team and it wouldn't have mattered.
     
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  5. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Well take away Ben's picks, then it's a whole different ball game.
     
  6. Lizard72

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    Wait what?!

    How do you prepare for the amount of picks he threw and the botching of the first snap into the damn end zone setting the tone of the whole game?

    Personally I don't think they should haven put Feiler back in to start, but players got to play!
     
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  7. Lizard72

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    They won't say it, but he wasn't the same after Dallas. He needed to rest those knees and he definitely wasn't comfortable anchoring and stepping into throws after that. That's when the whole offense broke down. He couldn't do play action, couldn't/wouldn't step into his throws, couldn't move around or absorb hits like he used to do. Once that happens they just started not even rushing him...they were disengaging and getting hands up!
     
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  8. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    And the expectations are high as a kite for this season. He has absorbed so much punishment in his career, multiple injuries and now age is not a recipe for an uptick in performance. I hope he can buckle up and stay healthy and a balanced offense is the key. Keep the throws under 35. His lack of arm strength with the elbow, forcing throws, knee issues, multiple picks and who knows what other ailments were a recipe for disaster last season. And now a year older. Key the retirement tour.
     
  9. Junebug

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    Yeah! And take away all those Browns TDs and it's a whole different ball game! :facepalm:
     
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  10. mikeyg

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    THIS needs to be the weekly gameplan. Ben is second fiddle this year - a HOF game manager, if you will.
     
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  11. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    The defense was still getting torched. They couldn't stop them.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

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    The whole team A-Z including coaching was terrible.

    But throwing 5 picks and the gift TD on the high snap are definitely the biggest culprit.
     
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  13. DukeDukeDaDaDa

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    Which does raise the point, who looks at that performance by a QB and says please come back?

    Well we know the answer to that.
     
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  14. SteelerGlenn

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    The big question is will the Tomlin haters think of any new material or just keep recycling the same nonsense?
     
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  15. thorn058

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    Complexities of the game changes when the conditions change. The Browns with a sizable lead are very different than the Browns playing from a hole. Same as the Steelers. They were able to grind it out and punish the defense, then mix in some passing when the Steelers have to stack the box and the whole defense looks horrible. Put them down three scores and Chubb and Hunt are less threatening, pass rush has more time to get home and Baker is forcing the ball to try and create splash plays that close the gap quickly. Whole complexion changes if you change those few plays from Ben and the offense.
     
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  16. thorn058

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    Sadly the same team that looked at Mason and Devlin and decided not to changing a thing and put them in games. Bad Ben at the end of last year was still slightly better than MR and DH, Bad Ben on cortisone was very much better than all three.
     
  17. thorn058

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    Yes to all of it. Im steering clear of the "clown show continues thread" because I'm sure the Tomlin can't control the team responses are due any moment.
     
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  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Without those 4 ints the Browns wouldn't have gotten those easy TDs :shrug:.
     
  19. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Browns got a gift the first play of the game, then Ben throws ints, that puts the defense in some bad spots.
     
  20. Junebug

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    Yeah, and if you hadn't been a boy, you'd have been a girl. :)
     
  21. S.T.D

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    Don't stop the team from making them kick a field goal at least once b4 they are up by 500.
     
  22. AFan

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    TheD is allowed to stop the other team after a turnover, hold them to a FG or maybe even force a turnover or get a sack. The Steelers D was allegedly one of the best in the league, but the Browns ran all over them in the first half, didn’t stop them at key times in game. They got no T/Os and no sacks against an OL that just met each other on game day. Ben stunk. But the D wasn’t blameless.
     
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  23. thorn058

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    I hate getting into an offense vs defense debate especially ones that are looking to assign blame and there are times when the defense makes some obvious blunders like 3rd and 35 and you let them complete a catch and run for the 1st down or 3rd and 3 and you break up the play to get the stop only to get a roughing the passer call because they couldn't stop themselves from giving the QB a shove.

    That being said over the length of Ben's career it has to be frustrating for the defense to struggle to get the ball back and the offense goes out and throws a deep pass on first that doesn't connect, runs a draw on second for minimal gain and then on third don't pass the ball beyond the first down marker and the defense has to hold again. Afterwards having fans go if the defense could stop anybody.....

    I mean there is a reason Tunch and Wolfe would talk about frustrating Brady because he kept a mental count of how many more scoring chances he'd get and if you can force 3 and outs or wasted opportunities he gets rattled. Ben has always been no biggie if we blow a series or six we can get them the next possession.

    Score dammit and let the fans argue about who was better not who is to blame more.
     
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  24. Thor

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    While one was a little better on the field, both were questionable with handling two-wheeled vehicles during their careers.
     
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  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The offense didn't sustain any drives, to give the defense a break either.
     
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